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Old December 7th, 2007, 07:38 AM   #1
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EX1 Night scenery

Please enjoy my night scenery shots of the Han River in Seoul, Korea.

http://www.moohobae.com/mine/20071206_720P-1.wmv
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Old December 7th, 2007, 08:05 AM   #2
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Thanks Mooho.
Looks great. clean blacks.
Was your gain set, at 0dB?
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Old December 7th, 2007, 08:30 AM   #3
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Yes, gain=0dB, shutter=off(1/24 sec).
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Old December 7th, 2007, 09:05 AM   #4
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That is magical!

What a beautiful little piece. This one will stay on my Hard Drive!

Fantastic work Mooho. I'm very impressed.
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Old December 7th, 2007, 11:24 AM   #5
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Very impressive! Looks pretty sharp. I supposed 1/24 means progressive in 1920x1080 24P? And was that rendered from Vegas Pro 8 or Premire?
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Old December 7th, 2007, 01:16 PM   #6
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Strange vertical line in Windows media player

Maybe it's my monitor or my old graphic card, but I've noticed a vertical line at the left side of the picture's frame (1/3 of the frame). It's solid and ever present during all the clip. It's only when I play the clip via Windows Media player, but it seems disappering with VIDEOLAN player...I've extract some png via videolan...and they appear more dark than wmv, so I can't notice the vertical line in the stills...
Edit :
It's sort of "rectangular" area more bright than the rest of the frame... like this :

|more bright| rest of |the frame|
|-----------|-------|----------|
|-----1-----|---2---|----3----|

Curious if anyone else has noticed this...
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Old December 7th, 2007, 02:30 PM   #7
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Carlo, not seeing what you're seeing here.

Great work Mooho!

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Old December 7th, 2007, 06:18 PM   #8
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Very impressive! Looks pretty sharp. I supposed 1/24 means progressive in 1920x1080 24P? And was that rendered from Vegas Pro 8 or Premire?
Yes to both, Sean, thanks.
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Old December 7th, 2007, 07:23 PM   #9
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Mooho, the source footage must be impressive?

Considering you have re-encoded to WMV, the footage looks good. Thanks for sharing.

Edit:

1. I forgot to ask Mooho, any chance of posting a few uncompressed tiff files from various parts of the source (if recorded in HQ mode)?

2. shoot in 1080 SP or HQ mode?

Thanks.

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Old December 10th, 2007, 06:19 AM   #10
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Is there a possibility you could post the raw footage... when I play the files you posted on a large screen I see lots of noise in the black area's....

would like to test out the raw footage over to bluray to playout on a bigscreen....

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Old December 10th, 2007, 07:24 AM   #11
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Strange. It sure appears to have less noise than a lot of other cameras I've seen under these same conditions.

But, don't expect magic. There will be some noise. I doubt the noise will be to different from the original file. I have found that using Cine3 setting on the camera and then adjusting to compensate with the black level, it seems to lower noise levels. Though, It does this at the expense of overall level, but looks natural.

All I can say is I'm blown away how clean the image is on this camera.
It looks great with natural light, but when you add, or drop this camera into a studio lighting setup, the images are just jaw dropping.

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Old December 10th, 2007, 07:56 AM   #12
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A short original clip

Thanks guys for valuable replies. Steven, I totally agree with you.

Here is a short source clip (gamma=default)
http://www.moohobae.com/test/BAE_0290_01.MP4
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Old December 10th, 2007, 08:29 AM   #13
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Ah Seoul Tower. I live in the Yongsan/Itaewon area. The tower overlooks my apartment.

Nice footage of Seoul/Han River at night.
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Old December 10th, 2007, 09:08 AM   #14
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Woops, I didn't use the correct terminology....

The footage looks great with very little if any noise...

I think I am seeing " mosquitoing " or " micro-blocking "....

Thanks for the source, I'll check it out tonight after work...
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Old December 10th, 2007, 10:13 PM   #15
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Thanks for the raw footage Mooho....

I brought the footage into Premiere Pro CS3 with the same preset as the footage and just output it to a memory stick ....then played back on a big screen...

The area I'm looking at is on the left of the screen just above the buildings...
the lights are causing some type of motion noise....

after I checked to make sure the issue was still there (and it was) I put the footage thru Neat Video and tweaked the footage.... it cleaned up very well...

Thanks again....

I'd post the footage but don't have the means...
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