Hot & Cold

Paul Joy · January 3rd, 2008, 02:13 PM

Just a few clips I grabbed of some taps today, there's not much exciting about taps I know, but I really like some of the shots so thought I'd post it.

All shot with the EX1 at 720/25p over cranked to 50. I used a picture profile with CINE 1 gamma applied. There's a little bit of interval recording in there too. There is some magic bullet grading applied in post.

http://www.olikai.com/ex1/hotandcold_720p.mov (43.8Mb)

regards

Paul.

Steven Thomas · January 3rd, 2008, 02:53 PM

Very nice paul, I like the look. I see you cropped the footage for a wider view.

Paul Joy · January 3rd, 2008, 02:59 PM

Thanks Steven. Yes, I wanted to try and give a cinematic feel to it, well as cinematic as a pair of dirty taps can be anyway :)

Using a matte this way is something I've wanted to mess around with for a while and I think it works well with the high quality images the EX1 produces.

Gabriel Florit · January 3rd, 2008, 05:49 PM

Was this using a 35mm adapter, for the DOF?

Very nice. What lighting did you use? Handheld, tripod?

Christopher Barry · January 3rd, 2008, 06:01 PM

Nice look, Paul, and it is good to start seeing some Cine Gamma Curves applied at the recording point. It would be great to see some full resolution frames before and after Magic Bullet, just to see what the EX1 is producing with the curve applied. This footage is escaping the video look!

Paul Joy · January 3rd, 2008, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabriel Florit

Was this using a 35mm adapter, for the DOF?

Very nice. What lighting did you use? Handheld, tripod?

Thanks.

No adapters, all done with the stock lens. I used a single Dedolight and most of the footage was shot on a tripod other than the obviously shaky closeups.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher Barry

Nice look, Paul, and it is good to start seeing some Cine Gamma Curves applied at the recording point. It would be great to see some full resolution frames before and after Magic Bullet, just to see what the EX1 is producing with the curve applied. This footage is escaping the video look!

Grabs attached. The are direct from the captured footage.

I still haven't found the colour I'm looking for directly from the camera, but it handles grading in post so well that I'm quite happy to leave my options open and not mess too much with the capturing.

I will keep hunting though!

Christopher Barry · January 3rd, 2008, 06:57 PM

Paul, the frames look good straight out of the camera. I have seen some custom Gamma Curves for F900 and F23 that emulate the Cineon Log curve and some custom presets require a lot of post grading, yet preserve both shadow detail and contain highlight blow outs.

The Cine Gamma Curves for the EX1, from the brochure and manual.
http://www.siliconcine.net/temp/EX1_Gamma_Curves.jpg

From the XDCam HD brochure, we can see how different the "Standard" curve compares to the Cine curves, and a lot more of your highlights would have shown a burnt out look with "Standard" curve.
http://www.siliconcine.net/temp/XDCAM_Gamna_Curves.jpg

I can't wait to do some comparative tests in a controlled lighting environment. Where art thou EX1 arrival... Paul, thanks for the post and subsequent frames uploaded.

Craig Seeman · January 3rd, 2008, 08:39 PM

Paul, someone from Kohler Kitchen and Bath Fixtures and Faucets is going to end up seeing this and hire you to do their spots!

I never new faucets could look so nice!

Spencer Dickson · January 5th, 2008, 04:31 AM

This took my techno-boner to a whole new level. Lol. Gorgeous vid. I like the music too...who is it by?

Andrew Wilson · January 5th, 2008, 07:52 AM

Yeah, thanks a lot Phil... This is the sample clip that finally made me pick up the phone and order one of these to finally make the upgrade.

Phil Bloom's stuff is beautiful but I don't have the desire (or time) to learn the fine points of 35mm adapters or the money for film lenses.

Your Hot and Cold clip showed me how crisp the image is and also how shallow the depth of field can be with the stock lens.

You should ask Sony for my commission. Seriously, nice work.

Paul Joy · January 6th, 2008, 06:46 AM

Thanks for the nice comments guys.

The music is "Killing All the Flies" from the album "Happy Songs for Happy People" by Scottish band 'Mogwai'. They are a fantastic band and you should buy all their stuff :)

http://www.mogwai.co.uk/

Andrew, thanks for saying so, I'm sure you'll love the camera.

regards

Paul.

John Welsh · January 7th, 2008, 04:29 AM

There's noise in shots. Not noticable though.
00:14 (right side)
00:21 (left side on the shadow)

How far were you standing from the sink?

Awesome quality...

January 3rd, 2008, 02:13 PM	#1
Paul Joy Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 627	Hot & Cold - EX1 clips Just a few clips I grabbed of some taps today, there's not much exciting about taps I know, but I really like some of the shots so thought I'd post it. All shot with the EX1 at 720/25p over cranked to 50. I used a picture profile with CINE 1 gamma applied. There's a little bit of interval recording in there too. There is some magic bullet grading applied in post. http://www.olikai.com/ex1/hotandcold_720p.mov (43.8Mb) regards Paul. __________________ Blog: www.pauljoy.com Company: www.videotrader.co.uk

January 3rd, 2008, 02:59 PM	#3
Paul Joy Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 627	Thanks Steven. Yes, I wanted to try and give a cinematic feel to it, well as cinematic as a pair of dirty taps can be anyway :) Using a matte this way is something I've wanted to mess around with for a while and I think it works well with the high quality images the EX1 produces. __________________ Blog: www.pauljoy.com Company: www.videotrader.co.uk

January 5th, 2008, 07:52 AM	#10
Andrew Wilson Tourist Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vermont, USA Posts: 123	Your post cost me $7000 Yeah, thanks a lot Phil... This is the sample clip that finally made me pick up the phone and order one of these to finally make the upgrade. Phil Bloom's stuff is beautiful but I don't have the desire (or time) to learn the fine points of 35mm adapters or the money for film lenses. Your Hot and Cold clip showed me how crisp the image is and also how shallow the depth of field can be with the stock lens. You should ask Sony for my commission. Seriously, nice work.

January 6th, 2008, 06:46 AM	#11
Paul Joy Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 627	Thanks for the nice comments guys. The music is "Killing All the Flies" from the album "Happy Songs for Happy People" by Scottish band 'Mogwai'. They are a fantastic band and you should buy all their stuff :) http://www.mogwai.co.uk/ Andrew, thanks for saying so, I'm sure you'll love the camera. regards Paul. __________________ Blog: www.pauljoy.com Company: www.videotrader.co.uk

January 7th, 2008, 04:29 AM	#12
John Welsh Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA & Cologne, GER Posts: 47	. There's noise in shots. Not noticable though. 00:14 (right side) 00:21 (left side on the shadow) How far were you standing from the sink? Awesome quality...

January 3rd, 2008, 02:53 PM	#2
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Very nice paul, I like the look. I see you cropped the footage for a wider view.

January 3rd, 2008, 05:49 PM	#4
Gabriel Florit Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cambridge, MA Posts: 65	Was this using a 35mm adapter, for the DOF? Very nice. What lighting did you use? Handheld, tripod?

January 3rd, 2008, 06:01 PM	#5
Christopher Barry Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 107	Nice look, Paul, and it is good to start seeing some Cine Gamma Curves applied at the recording point. It would be great to see some full resolution frames before and after Magic Bullet, just to see what the EX1 is producing with the curve applied. This footage is escaping the video look!

January 3rd, 2008, 06:57 PM	#7
Christopher Barry Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 107	Paul, the frames look good straight out of the camera. I have seen some custom Gamma Curves for F900 and F23 that emulate the Cineon Log curve and some custom presets require a lot of post grading, yet preserve both shadow detail and contain highlight blow outs. The Cine Gamma Curves for the EX1, from the brochure and manual. http://www.siliconcine.net/temp/EX1_Gamma_Curves.jpg From the XDCam HD brochure, we can see how different the "Standard" curve compares to the Cine curves, and a lot more of your highlights would have shown a burnt out look with "Standard" curve. http://www.siliconcine.net/temp/XDCAM_Gamna_Curves.jpg I can't wait to do some comparative tests in a controlled lighting environment. Where art thou EX1 arrival... Paul, thanks for the post and subsequent frames uploaded.

January 3rd, 2008, 08:39 PM	#8
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	Paul, someone from Kohler Kitchen and Bath Fixtures and Faucets is going to end up seeing this and hire you to do their spots! I never new faucets could look so nice!

January 5th, 2008, 04:31 AM	#9
Spencer Dickson Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 141	This took my techno-boner to a whole new level. Lol. Gorgeous vid. I like the music too...who is it by?