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Old January 14th, 2008, 09:42 AM   #1
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EX1 vs dsr300

I know it sounds wierd, but for SD distribution.
I am asking because I have not meet an HDV camera that can beat my dsr 300 in SD. Any way I like the Idea of 1/2 inch chip, just like the dsr 300. I work as a cameraman for a southamerican tv channel and I do little segments for a show. The final output is usealy minidv tape. So you think the Ex1 would do better than my dsr 300.

Low light should be the same.
Does the EX1 have componet outputs for onset monitoring, or do I need a miranda?
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Old January 14th, 2008, 09:44 AM   #2
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The EX1 has component outputs as well as SDI.
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Old January 14th, 2008, 09:53 AM   #3
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ok good. You know it is that thread about the HV20 standing up to the EX1 thats got me worried, but seriously what do you guys think.



May we should all just wait for the mini red!
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Old January 15th, 2008, 04:44 AM   #4
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Doesn't sound like you really NEED a new camera.

If there's nothing wrong with the DSR300, why replace it.

Maybe wait a few years and you'll get even more for you money, and solid state will certainly be far cheaper!
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Old January 24th, 2008, 09:01 PM   #5
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No but seriously I am close to getting two more dsr 300 and a pd 150for multicam stuff, but I wonder If I should go hdv or even xdcam.
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Old January 24th, 2008, 10:38 PM   #6
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No but seriously I am close to getting two more dsr 300 and a pd 150for multicam stuff, but I wonder If I should go hdv or even xdcam.
Neither the DSR300 or PD150/170 are 16:9. I think the answer to your question probably hinges more on will you need to deliver 16:9 in the near future. About the only way to get 16:9 is to shoot HD. There's an almost complete absense of 16:9 SD cameras at an affordable pricepoint which might explain the rapid takeup of HDV cameras.
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Old January 25th, 2008, 08:26 AM   #7
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One might find a couple of used DSR450s for 16:9 SD but personally I couldn't see investing that much money in SD delivery.

If the TV station wants to "future proof" their work, have the ability to eventually rerun what you shoot in HD, you'd be better off shooting in HD and delivering in 16:9 SD.

Keep in mind that the EX1 can do real time down convert to SD out of the SDI port. You may need to work on the work flow but you could shoot HD to card and output SD from SDI. You can use a device like Telestream Pipeline to further realtime convert the 10 bit uncompressed 4:2:2 to DV25 or IMX 50 if you need a workable smaller file.
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About the only way to get 16:9 is to shoot HD. There's an almost complete absense of 16:9 SD cameras at an affordable pricepoint which might explain the rapipd takeup of HDV cameras.
Canon, Sony and Panasonic all make SD 16:9 cameras. In Europe most tv is standard def 16:9, certainly any broadcast (and increasingly corporate) we must be 16:9.

It seems that only the US has the misconception that 16:9 is by default 16:9.

I bought a PDX-10 ages ago for its SD 16:9 anamorphic standard.

New JVCs are 16:9 (5100 IIRC?). Lots of choice!
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Old January 30th, 2008, 11:12 AM   #9
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The thing is that HD is a very very very long way away down here in South America. So is my show gona look better if I use some ex's and either downconvert at post or some other way, or If I continue with the dsr's.

16:9 is not needed, it would be nice but really not needed. ( I once shoot a concert in 16:9 with sd cams by lining them up on a chart and putting two slits of tape in the viewfinders and monitors! No one ever knew the difference!)
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I believe SD will be around for a while, that's for sure, but it only takes a trip into Walmart's electronics section to realize that 90% of the sets on display are 16:9.
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