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Old January 27th, 2008, 10:21 AM   #16
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Here now the LowLight files from Ex1 + XHA1.

EX1 35MBit:
http://www.archive.org/download/ex1_...EX1_01.mxf.mpg
http://www.archive.org/download/ex1_...EX1_02.mxf.mpg
http://www.archive.org/download/ex1_...EX1_03.mxf.mpg
http://www.archive.org/download/ex1_...EX1_04.mxf.mpg
http://www.archive.org/download/ex1_...EX1_05.mxf.mpg


Canon XH A1 25Mbit:
http://www.archive.org/download/ex1_...HA1_01.m2t.mpg
http://www.archive.org/download/ex1_...HA1_02.m2t.mpg
http://www.archive.org/download/ex1_...HA1_03.m2t.mpg
http://www.archive.org/download/ex1_...HA1_04.m2t.mpg
http://www.archive.org/download/ex1_...HA1_05.m2t.mpg

In the first sample(01), the EX1 goes with the Gain from -3dB to +6dB and to +18dB. The Canon from -3dB to +6dB to +12 dB. Shutter 100.

The sample 02-05 ist filmed in gain +6dB.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 10:32 AM   #17
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Wolfgang, EX1 file is ony 112KB. Something must of happened to your file. Actually for that matter, none of the EX1 files work.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 10:39 AM   #18
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>Wolfgang, EX1 file is ony 112KB. Something must of happened to your file. Actually for that matter, none of the EX1 files work.<

Upppsss..... now right! thanks....
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Old January 27th, 2008, 11:19 AM   #19
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In this images, I don't see much sensitivity difference between these cameras.
This is odd since I've seen a difference before. Where you trying to match exposures?
Without camera specifics such as f-stop, gain, ect... , it's hard to compare at least sensitivity.

Other than that. I'd say they are very close. I see you got the lens wet on the EX1 on the car street shot. Also, although CMOS has it's downfalls (that's for sure ;) ), I really like how it handles the lights at night without the CCD streaks. Also, the CA looked better on the EX1.

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Old January 27th, 2008, 11:43 AM   #20
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Here now the LowLight files from Ex1 + XHA1.
Hmmm, I'm very pleased with the image quality form the EX when compared to the A1. That's saying alot for me being that I have always preferred Canon's IQ over Sony's IQ. And this is in low-light!

Very interesting.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 11:59 AM   #21
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If you show the samples on a good 40 zoll FullHD Flatscreen, is the difference between Sony and Canon greater...... the EX1 files are cleaner (35MBit) in details (no red+blue CA).
Only in full Zoom is the XHA1 better, here is my EX1 very bad with red/blue CA.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 12:09 PM   #22
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http://www.fxsupport.de/test/ex1_00.jpg

EX1 Sample of full zoom.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 12:49 PM   #23
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Wolfgang, consider that interlaced shot, full zoom branches against a sky, I'm actually really pleased with the low CA. My JVC HD100 would of been horrible on this shot, so would of the Sony Z1.
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Old February 20th, 2008, 12:08 PM   #24
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Wolfgang,

Are the EX1 and A1 files, you provide links to, the capture files (converted or not) for use in premiere CS3 for edit testing?

Or are they recompressed output files from your editing system?

I'd like to test my premiere CS3 system on some EX1 samples.
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<Or are they recompressed output files from your editing system?

No, i read the files from the SXS memory with Sonys Picturesoft and export to MXF.... thats native.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 01:57 AM   #26
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thanks a lot!
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Old February 21st, 2008, 04:32 AM   #27
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Significant CA in tele

Thank you, Wolfgang, for sharing.
I am not pleased by the significant CA of the EX1 in full tele - the A1 looks better here. The better optics of the EX1 should show less CA in tele, even more since the EX1 has a reduced tele range (only x12 compared to x20 of the A1). How is this possible? Has anyone else found increased CA in EX1' tele shots?
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Old February 21st, 2008, 11:16 PM   #28
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Wolfgang,

what pp CS3 presets do i use to import the EX1 and H1 clips?
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I don't see how these comparisons are meaningful with out posting your paint settings?
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