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Old January 27th, 2008, 01:07 PM   #1
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Filters with your EX1

Just thinking about picking up some filters for my camera and wanted to see what other EX1 shooters are using?

UV-Haze
Polarizer
Soft focus
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Old January 27th, 2008, 03:07 PM   #2
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In use
ND Filters

Ready just in case
Close up filter
Diffusion filters
Graduation filters
Polariser
Various assorted like a fog filter etc.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 03:24 PM   #3
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In use
ND Filters

Ready just in case
Close up filter
Diffusion filters
Graduation filters
Polariser
Various assorted like a fog filter etc.
I'm buying filters now. What graduation (size, patter, ND) do you use or recommend?

Have you ever used a low contrast filter to get a film look in very bright light?
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Old January 27th, 2008, 04:27 PM   #4
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Michael. I have three Tian ya organic glass ND filters. One two and three stops. They are 3 1/2" by 4". I use with a cokin adapter. Also a 77mm screw on 4 stop ND filter that came with a krasnogorsk 16mm camera. A blue red and fog graduation filters. Some colours but not likely to get used. No I have never used a low contrast filter.
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Old January 29th, 2008, 11:19 AM   #5
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Just thinking about picking up some filters for my camera and wanted to see what other EX1 shooters are using?

UV-Haze
Polarizer
Soft focus
I get this question often from customers. If you are using a matte box or even if not, our 4x4 starter kit is the most popular filters that should be used with HDV recording. Most, but not all, other effects you can do faster or more reliably in post. Linked below is the kit and our instructional video on filter use. You can also buy the filters in this kit in a 77mm screw-in size as well but for a slightly different price.

http://www.schneideroptics.com/Ecomm....aspx?CID=1431

http://www.schneideroptics.com/century/filters/dvd.htm

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Old January 29th, 2008, 11:44 AM   #6
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You can also buy the filters in this kit in a 77mm screw-in size as well but for a slightly different price.
Ryan, thanks for the links. Can you also link the 77 mm filters? Thanks!
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Old January 29th, 2008, 06:04 PM   #7
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Ryan, thanks for the links. Can you also link the 77 mm filters? Thanks!
No Problem. You can pick these up at any of the sponsor dealers on this site. I believe that Abel Cine Tech should have these all in stock at a fair price. These are list prices so the dealer will be able to give you a better price.

ND0.6 77mm Graduated:
http://www.schneideroptics.com/ecomm...D=679&IID=3258

ND0.6 77mm Solid:
http://www.schneideroptics.com/ecomm...D=679&IID=3260

Polarizer:
http://www.schneideroptics.com/ecomm...D=680&IID=3264

Black Frost 1/2:
Stock Code = 68-083277. List Price $160.

Skintone enchancer:
Stock Code = 68-108177. List Price $160.

UV Filter for protection of lens:
http://www.schneideroptics.com/ecomm...D=681&IID=3234

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Old January 30th, 2008, 05:15 AM   #8
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Ryan,

Just out of interest - do any of these fit under the lens hood on the EX1?

Also how do you ensure the horizon line is correct on the grad ND - does it rotate?

Thanks in advance,
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Old January 30th, 2008, 07:11 AM   #9
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Ryan,

I really wish you guys would make a 102mm polariser for the frount of the upcoming 1.6x extender - i shoot 95% outside location on a beaches and by the ocean - having a mattebox is a no go for me - apart from the weight and setting up time the main problem is that it adds volume / bulk to my camera which means more wind resistance and therefore more vibration - shooting at full zoom in the wind is hard enough as it is. Then there is the point about it won't fit under my rain cover and is therefore exposed to sea air.
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Old January 30th, 2008, 11:20 AM   #10
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Ryan,

I really wish you guys would make a 102mm polariser for the frount of the upcoming 1.6x extender - i shoot 95% outside location on a beaches and by the ocean - having a mattebox is a no go for me - apart from the weight and setting up time the main problem is that it adds volume / bulk to my camera which means more wind resistance and therefore more vibration - shooting at full zoom in the wind is hard enough as it is. Then there is the point about it won't fit under my rain cover and is therefore exposed to sea air.
We do manufacture a 102mm polarizer. Our stock code is 68-013002. List price is $350.00 but dealers will sell it for less. I doubt any of the sponsor dealers will have this in stock but you can order it from them at a good price and then we will ship it out. The only catch with this polarizer is that we had to make it for both our tele-converters and our wide angles that take the same thread. Therefore, we had to keep the ring thickness in mind to avoid vignette on the wide angle. This meant that we had to make the polarizer without a rotating element. The polarizer is still perfectly useable. We made the threads much deeper than normal and thus you can thread it in and rotate it by screwing the filter on and off. Considering most polarization requires a 1/2 turn at most, this is not a major issue and I have never heard of a user screwing it off completely.

This polarizer is made with our Tru-Pol technology that is 12 times more effective than the best polarizer from any other brand. It features an extinction ratio of 374 vs other brands that top out around 32. This means that you can more effectively polarize the light at any angle from the light source instead of a very limited range. This creates better color saturation and reduction of highlights and reflections at almost any angle where with other polarizers you have to be mindful of the angle of the light source to your optical axis.

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Old January 30th, 2008, 11:24 AM   #11
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Ryan,

Just out of interest - do any of these fit under the lens hood on the EX1?

Also how do you ensure the horizon line is correct on the grad ND - does it rotate?

Thanks in advance,
Yes our UV and ND filters fit under the hood of the EX1. The polarizer does not but we do sell a slim polarizer that does. The polarizer can be hard to rotate in the hood anyway so I recommend shooting a polarizer without the hood. This creates easier use of the polarizer and a polarizer will naturally reduce some but not all incidence of flare due the nature of the filter. The ND filter features a rotating ring so you can adjust the horizon line by rotating ant tilting the camera. If you wish to maintain a certain angle of optical axis then you will need to buy a matte box with 4x4 or similar sized filters to be able to move the horizon line up and down without tilting the camera.

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Old January 30th, 2008, 12:06 PM   #12
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Is your 77mm polarizer a "Tru-Pol" unit, Ryan?

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Old January 30th, 2008, 01:27 PM   #13
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I'm quite annoyed that the hood makes it impossible to use a polarizer.
Now I have to buy a shade as well and the ones that I've seen available are nowhere near as good as the shade in the camera. On the HVX you can still turn a polarizer with the hood on. Just another example of not consulting real camerapeople when they design these things.
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Old February 1st, 2008, 10:05 AM   #14
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Is your 77mm polarizer a "Tru-Pol" unit, Ryan?

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The 77mm is available in our B+W brand or our Schneider Tru-Pol brand. Both are essentially the same laminate and feature a very high extinction ratio. We manufacture the Tru-Pol brand to differentiate the market here in the US for our Schneider Motion Picture and Television Filters. Both are excellent so the major difference in a screw in filter only is that the Schneider Tru-Pol is an aluminum ring and the B+W filter is a brass ring which is easier to mount on the camera and features a better lubrication. This is not an issue with Square or 4x5.65 filters as they have no ring and therefore are only branded Schneider.

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Old February 1st, 2008, 10:53 AM   #15
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