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Sony PMW-300, PXW-X200, PXW-X180 (back to EX3 & EX1) recording to SxS flash memory.


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Old March 17th, 2008, 06:48 PM   #16
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Has anyone tested this with other disks or is just a "thought"?
Because this could be a no no for buying the camera. My vendor said to me that it can accept Sandisks. So he could be wrong.
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Old March 17th, 2008, 06:53 PM   #17
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Sandisk will definitely have an SxS card that works in EX1. They've announced it. They worked with Sony on the technology.

Sony has said there will be a firmware update and cheaper cards will be certified to work with the EX1. I've heard this first hand face to face from Sony reps. The question is WHEN. Of course they could always backtrack on that too.
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Old March 17th, 2008, 09:32 PM   #18
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Let's hope the firmware could be done by files loaded at an MS and not in services.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 04:19 AM   #19
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Hi George,

Good to see you over here from the Liquid forum. Does this mean that you have purchased the EX1 - or that you are thinking about it? The good news is that liquid works very well with the EX1 - so it will be an easy transition for you.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 04:29 AM   #20
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I have a Transcend 8 gig Express card, supposed to be pcie but behaves like a usb device, even when in the Express card slot of my laptop, alsoit is not recognised by the EX1.

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Old March 18th, 2008, 05:39 AM   #21
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What do you mean by that? How an EX1 will know that is not sony's card?
Simon Wyndham pre-release review
http://www.simonwyndham.co.uk/xdcam-pmw-ex1.html

"Some people have been asking about the use of third party Express cards. The official line is that no, third party cards will not function with the EX. However we did try a third party card with the prototype EX1. The results were mixed. The camera *did* record the footage. However to playback the camera required a switch-off first. This could have been down to the camera being a prototype, so experiment with the third party cards at your own risk"

I wish Simon would have stated which brand worked in the prototype.Agian this glitch my have been corrected by Sony on the production models.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 06:50 AM   #22
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What do you mean by that? How an EX1 will know that is not sony's card?
Years ago i had a Sony cam which recorded directly to DVD,the small DVD,s,when i put a DVD in other than Sony branded,a message popped up telling me to use a genuine sony dvd,how does the cam know ?
Same thing can happen with batteries,i had another Sony cam,put a non sony battery on and it would shut down.
That's sony for you.

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Old March 18th, 2008, 07:09 AM   #23
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[...snip...]when i put a DVD in other than Sony branded,a message popped up telling me to use a genuine sony dvd,how does the cam know ?
Same thing can happen with batteries[...snip...]
There is an identifier on all recordable DVD's so burners can use the correct write strategy amongst other things.

For the rest, most things are "intelligent" now, from printer cartridges to batteries. They all contain a chip for management and such.

In Europe it is (often) not legal to use these to ward off competition. There have been (successful) suits against printer manufacturers to "open up" the (ink) market to 3rd party compatible products in the past.

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Old March 20th, 2008, 08:15 AM   #24
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Has anyone tried reformatting a transcend card? I believe the SxS cards use the FAT32 file system. Probably more complicated than this, but it might be worth a shot...

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Old March 22nd, 2008, 10:27 AM   #25
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The camera does not recognize the card, so you cannot format it in the camera.
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Old March 22nd, 2008, 11:22 AM   #26
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I was thinking actually of formatting it via software in a computer to match the SxS cards, not unlike tricking a tivo box to accept 3rd party drives.

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Old March 23rd, 2008, 05:10 PM   #27
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I don't think even SxS cards will work that way. I think you HAVE to format in camera.
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