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Old March 21st, 2008, 05:25 PM   #1
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viewing ex1 .mov files without FCP

sorry if this has been covered elsewhere but my frazzled brain cannot see it anywhere.

My director has my rushes from the doco shoot on a hard drive using a macbook. She doesn't have FCP and if she tried to open a file in quicktime she gets a white screen.

Is this possible without FCP?
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Old March 21st, 2008, 05:37 PM   #2
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VLC should work!
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

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Old March 21st, 2008, 05:40 PM   #3
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i don't think vlc shows timecode. no way with quicktime?
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Old March 21st, 2008, 05:41 PM   #4
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You will at least need a mpeg2@hl decoder.
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Old March 21st, 2008, 05:43 PM   #5
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what is that?
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Old March 21st, 2008, 05:45 PM   #6
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http://www.apple.com/quicktime/mpeg2/
But there should also be a freeware alternative to it.
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Old March 21st, 2008, 05:47 PM   #7
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You could try this one.
http://perian.org/#detail
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Old March 21st, 2008, 05:50 PM   #8
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isn't the ex1 codec different though?
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Old March 21st, 2008, 05:51 PM   #9
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I haven't run into any problems with many different mpeg2 decoder yet ;)
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Old March 21st, 2008, 06:12 PM   #10
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it's just i cant test it as have fcp on my computer so it plays fine...
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I believe one of the codecs in the quicktime library can be dropped into their QT library so they can play them in QT. I had to give HDV files to a client and had to give them the HDV codec so they could play it in QT (they did not have Final Cut). Apparently one of the codecs in that folder is for XDCAM, although by name none of them seem obvious. You could just send them the whole folder of codecs that you have installed and try that.

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Old March 22nd, 2008, 07:04 AM   #12
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Phil, I think you just discovered why some people say back up the BPAV folders. That plus ClipBrowser is cross platform viewable (not PPC Mac though).

BTW VLC086e could not play the MOV files on my FCP system.

MPEGStreamclip 1.9.1 can play them but no Time Code (FCP system though)
in Macintosh/Library/QuickTime the only codec the might be related to the EX is AppleMPEG2Codec.component.

You could do a "reverse" test by removing that codec to see if Quicktime then can't play the MOV file. If that's the result then just maybe handing that off to your director might help. It's 180KB so it's small enough to zip and email to your director as an experiment.

BTW once the files are converted to MOV Clip Browser can't seem to play them just in case you were thinking of that route too.
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Old March 22nd, 2008, 07:53 AM   #13
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You can use ffmpeg as stated on my blog (http://www.lecentre.net/blog/archives/157). You will get plain Mpeg2 files, wut without sound and timecode (I think).

Latest solution is the Clip Browser, which is a good tol to have, but works only on intel's mac.
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Old March 22nd, 2008, 11:31 AM   #14
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sorry if this has been covered elsewhere but my frazzled brain cannot see it anywhere.

My director has my rushes from the doco shoot on a hard drive using a macbook. She doesn't have FCP and if she tried to open a file in quicktime she gets a white screen.

Is this possible without FCP?
Sony XDCAM makes software that is for viewing only (it's not the XDCAM Transfer)... it's called XDCAM Clip Browsing Software. No need for FCP with this. Works like a charm.

http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Broadcastan...ownloads.shtml
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Old March 22nd, 2008, 12:02 PM   #15
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I believe the Clip Browsing software does NOT play the XDCAM files once they are converted to MOV and that is the predicament Phil is in.
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