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March 24th, 2008, 10:12 AM

What are some of the best options for backup footage from the EX1 camera? I'm thinking solid state drive is the best way to go but it's pricey. If buying an old fashion hard drive, what brand has less problems or prone to defects? I'm also thinking about backing up into double layer DVD. The problem is all my MP4 files are in one folder. How do I split those files into multiples of 8.5GB folders? I know that I can't just copy and paste the files. Do I then use the Sony Clip Browser to split those files?

Craig Seeman · March 24th, 2008, 12:11 PM

Clip Browser on Intel Mac or Windows will split BPAV. No way to split on PPC Mac. I'm using Intel Mac and splitting 16GB folders to 8GB for backup. I think DL-DVD is good (Verbatim 2.4x) but others will suggest hard drive.

Eric Pascarelli · March 24th, 2008, 12:23 PM

I have this device and I love it - combined with $140 750GB drives it's an unbeatable way to archive (with the usual caveats of archiving to hard drives)

http://www.geekstuff4u.com/product_i...roducts_id=650

Benjamin Eckstein · March 24th, 2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric Pascarelli

I have this device and I love it - combined with $140 750GB drives it's an unbeatable way to archive (with the usual caveats of archiving to hard drives)

http://www.geekstuff4u.com/product_i...roducts_id=650

That is really cool. I take it that it works well?

I archive to external drives (in matched pairs). Its cheap and fast. To start I bought 3x500 GB hitachi drives and 3x500 GB Seagate drives and 6 USB enclosures. (You can get a better price/performance/warranty building your own drives). I then have 3 x 500 GB Hitachi/Seagate pairs that hold the same data. One set in a shelf. The other in a safe.

I think DL DVDs are a great backup to hard drives too, but they take a while and I know I won't keep up with it for myself.

Eric Pascarelli · March 24th, 2008, 12:37 PM

It works perfectly - as advertised.

I have not found any way to buy it other than direct from Japan (through the above link) and the shipping time/price is big. But well worth it.

I found some plastic boxes to hold the mechanisms and so far so good. It's great to take all of those huge files off the computer.

And this method is, of course, very fast.

March 24th, 2008, 12:42 PM

Thanks for the response. Initially, I was thinking of hard drive, but then I noticed that hard drive do die often (at least those that I have used before). And for archived, I want something that is a little less expensive and prone to problems.

March 24th, 2008, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Pascarelli

I have this device and I love it - combined with $140 750GB drives it's an unbeatable way to archive (with the usual caveats of archiving to hard drives)

http://www.geekstuff4u.com/product_i...roducts_id=650

That is quite a product! For sure I'm going to buy it. I think this will solve my problems as far as backup.

Many thanks for the suggestion and link.

March 24th, 2008, 01:06 PM

Okay, I just finished purchasing that product for a total of $80.04. All I needed is USB 2.0 and eSATA port so I didn't go with the combo version.

Allen Plowman · March 24th, 2008, 01:14 PM

this appears to be the same thing, available from a US supplier
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817707127

March 24th, 2008, 01:39 PM

Allen, I wished you could have posted a bit earlier. That would have saved me 30 bucks. Any way, it appears that the one in newegg.com has a StarTech.com logo on the front while that one from Japan does not. I'm not sure if it is the same. I also found a Logic version too.

http://www.techfresh.net/gadgets/com...dd-stage-rack/

Not sure if it is the same either.

Eric Pascarelli · March 24th, 2008, 02:02 PM

It looks the same to me - good find, Allen.

Chong, you may want to consider canceling your order, not so much for price, but for the time it will take to be delivered. It took almost two weeks to get mine.

Edit:

To clarify, the New Egg unit is the same as mine, but the Logic version is not. Though perhaps just as good while losing the stupidly elegant simplicity of mine.

Allen Plowman · March 24th, 2008, 02:04 PM

the logo could just be a sticker, however, after I posted, I noticed the newegg one didnt seem to mention esata, only sata.

Piotr Wozniacki · March 24th, 2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Allen Plowman

the logo could just be a sticker, however, after I posted, I noticed the newegg one didnt seem to mention esata, only sata.

Yep - it looks like it can take SATA drive, but its transfer speed of just 480Mbps suggest the interface is USB2.0 only.

Eric Pascarelli · March 24th, 2008, 02:15 PM

There's one on the original Japanese website that takes Firewire as well - both 400 and 800.

Much more expensive, though:

http://www.geekstuff4u.com/product_i...roducts_id=691

March 24th, 2008, 02:17 PM

Thanks for the reply. I'm not in a hurry to get mine unless there is one in the US with eSATA and USB 2.0.

March 24th, 2008, 10:12 AM	#1
Chong Lor Posts: n/a	Backup options What are some of the best options for backup footage from the EX1 camera? I'm thinking solid state drive is the best way to go but it's pricey. If buying an old fashion hard drive, what brand has less problems or prone to defects? I'm also thinking about backing up into double layer DVD. The problem is all my MP4 files are in one folder. How do I split those files into multiples of 8.5GB folders? I know that I can't just copy and paste the files. Do I then use the Sony Clip Browser to split those files?

March 24th, 2008, 01:14 PM	#9
Allen Plowman Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Paradise, california Posts: 353	this appears to be the same thing, available from a US supplier http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817707127 __________________ "What I need is an exact list of specific unknown problems we might encounter."

March 24th, 2008, 02:04 PM	#12
Allen Plowman Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Paradise, california Posts: 353	the logo could just be a sticker, however, after I posted, I noticed the newegg one didnt seem to mention esata, only sata. __________________ "What I need is an exact list of specific unknown problems we might encounter."

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March 24th, 2008, 12:11 PM	#2
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	Clip Browser on Intel Mac or Windows will split BPAV. No way to split on PPC Mac. I'm using Intel Mac and splitting 16GB folders to 8GB for backup. I think DL-DVD is good (Verbatim 2.4x) but others will suggest hard drive.

March 24th, 2008, 12:23 PM	#3
Eric Pascarelli Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 498	I have this device and I love it - combined with $140 750GB drives it's an unbeatable way to archive (with the usual caveats of archiving to hard drives) http://www.geekstuff4u.com/product_i...roducts_id=650

March 24th, 2008, 12:37 PM	#5
Eric Pascarelli Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 498	It works perfectly - as advertised. I have not found any way to buy it other than direct from Japan (through the above link) and the shipping time/price is big. But well worth it. I found some plastic boxes to hold the mechanisms and so far so good. It's great to take all of those huge files off the computer. And this method is, of course, very fast.

March 24th, 2008, 12:42 PM	#6
Chong Lor Posts: n/a	Thanks for the response. Initially, I was thinking of hard drive, but then I noticed that hard drive do die often (at least those that I have used before). And for archived, I want something that is a little less expensive and prone to problems.

March 24th, 2008, 01:06 PM	#8
Chong Lor Posts: n/a	Okay, I just finished purchasing that product for a total of $80.04. All I needed is USB 2.0 and eSATA port so I didn't go with the combo version.

March 24th, 2008, 01:39 PM	#10
Chong Lor Posts: n/a	Allen, I wished you could have posted a bit earlier. That would have saved me 30 bucks. Any way, it appears that the one in newegg.com has a StarTech.com logo on the front while that one from Japan does not. I'm not sure if it is the same. I also found a Logic version too. http://www.techfresh.net/gadgets/com...dd-stage-rack/ Not sure if it is the same either.

March 24th, 2008, 02:02 PM	#11
Eric Pascarelli Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 498	It looks the same to me - good find, Allen. Chong, you may want to consider canceling your order, not so much for price, but for the time it will take to be delivered. It took almost two weeks to get mine. Edit: To clarify, the New Egg unit is the same as mine, but the Logic version is not. Though perhaps just as good while losing the stupidly elegant simplicity of mine.

March 24th, 2008, 02:15 PM	#14
Eric Pascarelli Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 498	There's one on the original Japanese website that takes Firewire as well - both 400 and 800. Much more expensive, though: http://www.geekstuff4u.com/product_i...roducts_id=691

March 24th, 2008, 02:17 PM	#15
Chong Lor Posts: n/a	Thanks for the reply. I'm not in a hurry to get mine unless there is one in the US with eSATA and USB 2.0.