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Malcolm Hamilton · May 13th, 2008, 03:17 PM

Hi there,
I'm getting different opinions re the best mic to use with the Sennheiser EW112-G2s I just ordered. The guy at the store says to buy Sanken COS-11,
a guy at the CBC, where I used to work, says to get Trams.
But neither the guy at the store nor the guy at CBC has used an EX-1.
Would any of you EX-1 users (and audiophiles) mind giving me your opionions?
thanks,
Malcolm

Doug Okamoto · May 13th, 2008, 03:35 PM

Doesn't this already come with the VT500 lav? Of course I think the COS 11 is the best lav mic around but I think you'll have determine that based on who you put the mic on.

Malcolm Hamilton · May 13th, 2008, 03:39 PM

thank you, Doug. I take that as a pretty positive vote for the COS-11. I'll wait to see if I hear from any Tram users before finalizing my order. (I don't know what you mean about the VT500)
Cheers, Malcolm

Christopher Barry · May 13th, 2008, 06:04 PM

I have a bunch of G2 100 sets. I was going to buy COS-11's for each, then decided on the Sen MKE2 Gold (Mfr# MKE2-EW GOLD). They are already fitted with a mini jack and draw the power required from the Sen transmitter. Suits my intended use.

Malcolm Hamilton · May 13th, 2008, 06:30 PM

Christopher - - don't the COS-11s also draw power from the transmitter?
Malcolm

Doug Okamoto · May 13th, 2008, 07:49 PM

They either go with phantom or need 48v power depending on the model you get.

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I don't know what you mean about the VT500

The VT500 is a lav mic that is supposed to be part of that Sennheiser EW112-G2 package.

Christopher Barry · May 13th, 2008, 07:53 PM

Malcolm, you could be right. I am not sure how the wiring of the COS-11 would be done to allow this.

I was under the impression that you may have to use the large XLR component, that contains a AA battery, then convert XLR to mini jack for input to the Sen transmitter? If so, it seemed too bulky for my intended use.
http://www.sanken-mic.com/upload/prd/img/1005900.jpg

These are my assumptions, so perhaps someone with COS-11 experience can confirm the wiring and power configuration for a COS-11 to G2 100 transmitter. MKE2-Gold, plug and play.

Doug Okamoto · May 13th, 2008, 08:45 PM

With the COS 11's you can get the model with a stripped end basically if you have the electrical know-how (or in my case know someone who is smart) you can 'convert' the cable to the 3.5mm plug. They come with either 1.6 meter or 3 meter cabling. If I recall correctly it really wasn't very difficult but I didn't do it.

With the Sennheiser G2 series you won't need battery power, phantom will come from the transmitter.

If putting the 3.5mm plug on is daunting, then I would recommend the Sennheiser MKE2 Gold lavs that Christopher Barry is using.

Dave Morrison · May 13th, 2008, 09:19 PM

I bought two used MKE2's off of eBay and soldered them myself. I'd recommend getting the locking 1/8" TRS plugs if you go this route. Also, the G2 transmitters do NOT provide 48v phantom power. I believe it is provided in some of the higher level Senn wireless systems.

Doug Okamoto · May 14th, 2008, 01:59 AM

Ack! You're correct Dave the G2 line doesn't provide 48v except for the plug on transmitter for handheld mics.

My only excuse I can give is old age! I haven't done production work for 2 years now, only post production. Sorry about the wrong information!

Malcolm Hamilton · May 14th, 2008, 06:11 AM

Guys I think I'm going to be o.k.. Wouldn't dare wire anything myself - - the audio place (Trew) where I'm getting this gear is going to replace the lav mics that the Sennheiser RFs come with, with the COS-11s. They'll do the wiring, and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have recommended this if they didn't think it would work out well.
I'm surprised no one's commented on the Tram TR50... I thought it was in widespread use. Anyone?
Malcolm

May 13th, 2008, 03:17 PM	#1
Malcolm Hamilton Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 844	best mic for Sennheiser RFs? Hi there, I'm getting different opinions re the best mic to use with the Sennheiser EW112-G2s I just ordered. The guy at the store says to buy Sanken COS-11, a guy at the CBC, where I used to work, says to get Trams. But neither the guy at the store nor the guy at CBC has used an EX-1. Would any of you EX-1 users (and audiophiles) mind giving me your opionions? thanks, Malcolm

May 13th, 2008, 09:19 PM	#9
Dave Morrison Major Player Join Date: May 2002 Location: West Central Florida Posts: 762	I bought two used MKE2's off of eBay and soldered them myself. I'd recommend getting the locking 1/8" TRS plugs if you go this route. Also, the G2 transmitters do NOT provide 48v phantom power. I believe it is provided in some of the higher level Senn wireless systems. __________________ EX1, Nikon D750 http://www.morrisonphotographics.com http://www.heritagefilm.com

May 14th, 2008, 01:59 AM	#10
Doug Okamoto Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bellevue, Washington Posts: 145	Ack! You're correct Dave the G2 line doesn't provide 48v except for the plug on transmitter for handheld mics. My only excuse I can give is old age! I haven't done production work for 2 years now, only post production. Sorry about the wrong information! Last edited by Doug Okamoto; May 14th, 2008 at 03:10 AM.

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May 13th, 2008, 03:35 PM	#2
Doug Okamoto Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bellevue, Washington Posts: 145	Doesn't this already come with the VT500 lav? Of course I think the COS 11 is the best lav mic around but I think you'll have determine that based on who you put the mic on.

May 13th, 2008, 03:39 PM	#3
Malcolm Hamilton Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 844	thank you, Doug. I take that as a pretty positive vote for the COS-11. I'll wait to see if I hear from any Tram users before finalizing my order. (I don't know what you mean about the VT500) Cheers, Malcolm

May 13th, 2008, 06:04 PM	#4
Christopher Barry Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 107	I have a bunch of G2 100 sets. I was going to buy COS-11's for each, then decided on the Sen MKE2 Gold (Mfr# MKE2-EW GOLD). They are already fitted with a mini jack and draw the power required from the Sen transmitter. Suits my intended use.

May 13th, 2008, 06:30 PM	#5
Malcolm Hamilton Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 844	Christopher - - don't the COS-11s also draw power from the transmitter? Malcolm

May 13th, 2008, 07:53 PM	#7
Christopher Barry Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 107	Malcolm, you could be right. I am not sure how the wiring of the COS-11 would be done to allow this. I was under the impression that you may have to use the large XLR component, that contains a AA battery, then convert XLR to mini jack for input to the Sen transmitter? If so, it seemed too bulky for my intended use. http://www.sanken-mic.com/upload/prd/img/1005900.jpg These are my assumptions, so perhaps someone with COS-11 experience can confirm the wiring and power configuration for a COS-11 to G2 100 transmitter. MKE2-Gold, plug and play.

May 13th, 2008, 08:45 PM	#8
Doug Okamoto Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bellevue, Washington Posts: 145	With the COS 11's you can get the model with a stripped end basically if you have the electrical know-how (or in my case know someone who is smart) you can 'convert' the cable to the 3.5mm plug. They come with either 1.6 meter or 3 meter cabling. If I recall correctly it really wasn't very difficult but I didn't do it. With the Sennheiser G2 series you won't need battery power, phantom will come from the transmitter. If putting the 3.5mm plug on is daunting, then I would recommend the Sennheiser MKE2 Gold lavs that Christopher Barry is using.

May 14th, 2008, 06:11 AM	#11
Malcolm Hamilton Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 844	Guys I think I'm going to be o.k.. Wouldn't dare wire anything myself - - the audio place (Trew) where I'm getting this gear is going to replace the lav mics that the Sennheiser RFs come with, with the COS-11s. They'll do the wiring, and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have recommended this if they didn't think it would work out well. I'm surprised no one's commented on the Tram TR50... I thought it was in widespread use. Anyone? Malcolm