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Old May 16th, 2008, 02:52 PM   #1
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Mic Suspension Mount - What Are You Using?

I'm just demo-ing this right now:

Audio-Technica AT8415 Low Profile Universal Shock Mount
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...rToReadReviews

Rycote 037302 Hot Shoe Adaptor with 3/8" Male Thread
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Shoe_3_8_.html

Using it with a Sennheiser 416

No camera handling noise.

The mic hangs out in front of the native EX1 lens but is not picked up in the field of view. I wonder what will happen with a .6x wide???

What are you using?
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Old May 16th, 2008, 03:17 PM   #2
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That shockmount is about average for profile. I use this one, which appears to be equivalent, although it includes the hot shoe mount.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...hockmount.html

A lower profile shockmount is the Light Wave model. It's pricy, but it is lower profile. I used one for a while until the little plastic foot mount broke, which it should have. Have to find some parts though. I wish Lightwave would make it easy and include or offer replacement parts for this "designed to be broken" hot shoe foot.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...hockmount.html

I don't see the hotshoe mount configuration that I bought, so you'll need to put together your own mount to the camera.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 03:25 PM   #3
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I'm using the K-Tek mic isolator and an adapter they also make that uses the stock mic location for mounting. This way you can keep your hot/cold shoe free for other things.

http://www.ktekbooms.com/products.php?id=47

http://www.ktekbooms.com/products.php?id=81

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Old May 16th, 2008, 03:28 PM   #4
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Lightwave Mini Mount; just figured out how to mount this onto the EX1 in a very easy way (same place where the current mic holder is).

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...hockmount.html
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Old May 16th, 2008, 03:49 PM   #5
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Rode Adjustable shockmount

I bought this one last NAB http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...hockmount.html and my production guys love it. It's shoe and boom mountable and the angle is very adjustable. It sits high enough off the camcorder that is out of the line of sight and can have a softie on the mic still. It's also very inexpensive!
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Old May 16th, 2008, 04:25 PM   #6
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Rode SM5

Anyone have experience with this?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...icrophone.html

I like that it keeps the shoe free, and is adjustable as well. I hear that this style is hard on the existing mic mount, though.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 05:53 PM   #7
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Nice work guys.

So far..... I like Michael's offerings:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...icrophone.html

Leaves the cold shoe free.

But yes, one does wonder if would stress the mount.

I understand that some folks have broken their mounts. Can anyone tell me what specifically broke? Did the plastic that the screws thread into on the camera body let go? Or was it the plastic mic mount itself? Or was it just the plastic plastic plastic plastic plastic? ;)
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Old May 16th, 2008, 06:25 PM   #8
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Wind Issues

I've got our Sennheiser 416 mounted in a K-tek mount. They make a converter plug that screws into the end of this that allows it to be clamped into the EX-1 (after 2 wraps of gaffers tape). This works pretty well.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...icrophone.html

We also have both a K-tek and Rycote softies for the 416.

What I'd point out, because we work in a lot of higher winds (10-20 mph are pretty common) the microphone causes the camera to vibrate (it acts like a sail). So, I got one of these Cardellini Mini Mic clamps, so we can clamp the K-tek mount to a tripod leg and get it away from the camera.

http://www.cardelliniclamp.com/products.htm

We are only recording ambient volcano noise, not voices, so this may not apply to many folks. But it sure has made our camera a lot more stable.

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Old May 16th, 2008, 08:07 PM   #9
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Hi Jonathan,

If you want to save $$$, you might consider making your own.

I've made up two for about $1.50 a piece.

They work well.

Check my posts for other Pics and explanation.

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Old May 17th, 2008, 07:14 AM   #11
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I use the Rode SM5.
It works very well.

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Old May 17th, 2008, 09:33 AM   #12
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I'm considering the Sen ME66 for the EX1 in future, may I know if the mic holder is too large for the mic? If yes, how can this be solved? Actually I do not understand y we need shock mounts, I presume it is for use with the boom pole only rite?
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Old May 17th, 2008, 10:14 AM   #13
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Ok..... Paul.
Let me ask you.
Say your're doing an interview.
The camera is in close to the subject and the lens is wide.
You've framed the subject to one side of the frame.

Will the Rode SM5 allow you to pan your mic over so that it aiming at the subject? It does not look like it swivels.

Know what I mean?
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Old May 17th, 2008, 10:28 AM   #14
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Johnathan...
No the mic holder doesn't swivel but if the subject is in the frame then he/she is not so far to one side that the mic won't pic up the voice.

Sean.
EX1 and ME66,which i'm using,
the standard on camera mic holder is slightly too big for the ME66,but i have a thin rubber sleeve which i put round the mic/inside the clamp mount to correct this.

Suspension mount is not only for booming, a suspension mount also isolates the mic from other sounds such as flicking buttons on the cam,they can easily be transfered through to the mic,however,use a suspension mount practically cures this,try it,plug headphones in the cam and put them on,now play around with the joystick on top of the cam,click click click !!
Do that with a sus mount and you won't hear it.

Also i've been filming on a tripod before now in very packed venue's,people walk past and bump their feet on the tripod legs,this travels up to the mike and can be heard,again a sus mount will help with this.

Also with the Rode SM5,i have a rycote softie on my mic and when on full wide,with the mic in the cam holder i can see the mic,however the SM5 moves the mic over and up to the side so i no longer have the mic in the shot.

I got my mount on ebay,and it's definately one of those cheap little accessories that i wouldn't be without now.

Hope this helps.

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Old May 17th, 2008, 10:37 AM   #15
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Thanks Paul!

Did you have to use some tape or rubber bands to get it snug inside the EX1's mount?
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