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Sony PXW-Z280, Z190, X180 etc. (going back to EX3 & EX1) recording to SxS flash memory.

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Old November 26th, 2008, 10:31 AM   #1081
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Your Sticky Post says it all, thanks x
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Old November 26th, 2008, 12:28 PM   #1082
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You have a good point. I've added a link with the "summary
sticky" to the first post... maybe that will help some folks.
The problem with the "Sticky" now is that the Kensington Card readers are no longer available and there is no worthwhile substitution as of yet. So anyone new is out of luck with this entire thing right now.

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Old November 26th, 2008, 12:31 PM   #1083
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I'm working on that as well... talking to another company about an Express card adapter based on that same controller but a bit shorter to allow for a closed door on the EX1... more to follow as it develops,
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Old November 26th, 2008, 12:36 PM   #1084
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talking to another company about an Express card adapter based on that same controller but a bit shorter
That'd be fantastic!

In the meantime, I was able to order 2 Kensington adapters from the link in the sticky just today.

So apparently the stock is still there, albeit spotty.
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Old November 26th, 2008, 01:43 PM   #1085
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I'm working on that as well... talking to another company about an Express card adapter based on that same controller but a bit shorter to allow for a closed door on the EX1... more to follow as it develops,
I have also been working with a company in China to produce an adapter, still waiting to get a quote.

I contacted Kensington US in October talked to a marketing Rep about making an adapter that would allow you to closed the door on the EX1.
I also ask did they notice an increase in sells on the Kensington adapter for the months of SEP and Oct. She said it’s not a big selling item and at the time it was not on the web site, but the bar code was still active. She also informed me that there budget for this year was almost gone, that’s probably why the adapters are not in stock
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Old November 26th, 2008, 01:53 PM   #1086
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Can anyone confirm this definitely works with the EX3?

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Old November 26th, 2008, 02:51 PM   #1087
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Hmmm..
There are a lot of talented people on this forum.
We have a world of resources!

We will have a working solution (including EX1 memory door close) soon!
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Old November 26th, 2008, 02:51 PM   #1088
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I have been in touch with Kensington (UK) today and have been informed that the 7 in 1 card reader is still in production.
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Old November 26th, 2008, 03:50 PM   #1089
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So anyone tried A-DATA E-702 Expresscards?
A-DATA support gave me this information: E702 read / write speed is 30MB / 13MB

This is very close to SDHC ultra II speed.

PS. If you have tested some A-DATA cards, make sure before you comment that they don't work, that the one you've tried is 702 since 703 and 704 are only half of 702s speed.
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Old November 26th, 2008, 04:25 PM   #1090
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i am living in switzerland and got 11 adapter, so i can make a kit including

1 kensington adapter + pelican case 0910 + up to 4x 16Gb sandisk ultra II SD (the one you can cut).
the pelican case can hold 8 SD card or 4 SD + one adapter.

price without shipment would be around $300 with 4 SD.
unfortunately , shipment overseas would probably represent a significative amount of the total price (at least 30$)
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Old November 26th, 2008, 04:32 PM   #1091
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are you talking about Kensington?

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Can anyone confirm this definitely works with the EX3?
The Kensington adapter and SDHC card works very well in the EX3 and the door closes ... luckily!!
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Old November 26th, 2008, 06:00 PM   #1092
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These are the numbers on the back of my Lexar 8GB SSD card:

Lexar EX8GB-5001 Rev D
32064-8GBC-2407

Lexar Media Inc 2007

I'd like to know if this is the same/different as yours - mine came from the UK about 10 months ago and does not work reliably in any mode with the EX1.

More to the point is that the data rates for my 8GB Lexar are:
sequential read:24.7 seq. write 6.97
random read:23.92 random write: 1.36
random4k read:5.41 random 4k write 0.015

If you trawl thru this thread you'll find all the information refering to data rates on a large number of cards. This one of mine is simply not fast enough. The test was done the Crystaldiskmark soft which we've all used to get some parity in the tests.


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I just picked up one of these, REV-A seems to work fine. 10 minutes of HQ 1080/60i was no problem, neither was 10 minutes of HQ 1080/24p.

Overcranking HQ1080/p24 to 30 frames caused it to error out after a minute and a half. I did download the above benchmarking program, but couldn't get it to see the Lexar 8GB on the laptop.

EX1 Firmware V1.11

$59.98
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Old November 26th, 2008, 06:03 PM   #1093
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So anyone tried A-DATA E-702 Expresscards?
A-DATA support gave me this information: E702 read / write speed is 30MB / 13MB

This is very close to SDHC ultra II speed.

PS. If you have tested some A-DATA cards, make sure before you comment that they don't work, that the one you've tried is 702 since 703 and 704 are only half of 702s speed.
I can now CONFIRM the 702 is the model I bought and returned to Frys Electronics.
It had the Mini USB port on it and according to A-Data only the High Speed 702 & 704 have the mini usb port.
A-DATA Technology

Again, It does NOT work and gives a media incompatible error.
This is not a speed related error. I have tried MANY SDHC cards that work, but are not fast enough for sustained HQ mode.
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Old November 26th, 2008, 07:32 PM   #1094
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As you all seem desperate for card readers, I will again post that this card reader "successfully" works in my EX3 with Sandisk 16gb Ultra 2's although the door doesn't quite close.
Laptop ExpressCard SD SDHC MS MMC Express Card Reader - eBay (item 360109668380 end time Nov-26-08 19:05:19 PST)
I can't believe there hasn't been more comment on these readers as they are a "real" alternative to the Kensington's!

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Old November 26th, 2008, 07:40 PM   #1095
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Thanks, Evan. I ordered a pair last week when you first mentioned them. I still have to get my EX1 upgraded to firmware 1.11 for these to work, right?
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