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Mark David Williams · October 17th, 2008, 03:08 AM

If you wanted to transfer to film then what are the best settings?

Jay Gladwell · October 17th, 2008, 08:38 AM

You would definitely want to shoot at 1080/25p (for PAL). Any other settings, such as Picture Profiles, would be totally subjective and dependent on each individual film project.

Having said that, I'm confident others will offer specifics.

Mark David Williams · October 17th, 2008, 11:08 AM

I would have thought a cine 1 or 2 with Bills settings..

Also I'd like to know if anyone has used Picture Profiles to create the look of different film stocks?

Herminio Cordido · October 17th, 2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Gladwell

You would definitely want to shoot at 1080/25p (for PAL). Any other settings, such as Picture Profiles, would be totally subjective and dependent on each individual film project.

Having said that, I'm confident others will offer specifics.

Why 25p and no 24p?

Marcos Luger · October 17th, 2008, 11:35 AM

Probably Mark has a Pal camera that only does 25p... As for a picture profile, well this is my personal opinion, but I rather do any color correction in post.

Jay Gladwell · October 17th, 2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark David Williams

Also I'd like to know if anyone has used Picture Profiles to create the look of different film stocks?

Mark, I agree that would be a great idea--I'd love to see that myself. However, I think it would be a monumental task to accomplish. Probably expensive, too.

But here's hoping...!

Jay Gladwell · October 17th, 2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Herminio Cordido

Why 25p and no 24p?

Good point, Herminio, assuming he can shoot 24p.

Mark David Williams · October 17th, 2008, 12:35 PM

Well the UK version of the EX-1 does NTSC so I can do 24p.. But I don't think there is a problem with 25P for filmout today. I'd love to be able to dial in a film stock in the PP's and then compose my scene on a monitor and make adjustments with camera settings to get the best pic with those settings! But I also agree that post is the best way to change your mind later.

Andrew Hollister · October 17th, 2008, 12:53 PM

Maybe create two Picture Profiles, one for your film look to give you an idea on location/monitoring ... and a clean PP to shoot with. Then you can have sample clips to match to in post (Color, Magic Bullet or the like)

Best of luck.

Mark David Williams · October 17th, 2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Hollister

Maybe create two Picture Profiles, one for your film look to give you an idea on location/monitoring ... and a clean PP to shoot with. Then you can have sample clips to match to in post (Color, Magic Bullet or the like)

Best of luck.

Good thinking Andrew! What I'm thinking here though is in post automatic programs like MB decide for you. Yes I know you can adjust settings but you are stuck with the picture you recorded whereas a PP means you can adjust lighting or positions or aperture etc. I probably should get a good book on the art of the colourist as well!

Jason Bodnar · October 17th, 2008, 05:57 PM

A lot of the New theaters have digital projection and I have heard a most of the Film festivals are starting to offer digital projection, in case you did not want to shoot 24p and dish out the crazy amount of money to go to actual Film. I just shot an independent project which is going the digital projection route and I shot 1080 30p and used my own customer Profile.

October 17th, 2008, 03:08 AM	#1
Mark David Williams Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Hertfordshire UK Posts: 414	Best settings for filmout. If you wanted to transfer to film then what are the best settings?

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Andrew Hollister Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Decatur, GA Posts: 198	Maybe create two Picture Profiles, one for your film look to give you an idea on location/monitoring ... and a clean PP to shoot with. Then you can have sample clips to match to in post (Color, Magic Bullet or the like) Best of luck. __________________ Sony EX1 v1.11, crap loads of SxS, Macs w/ Final Cut Studio

October 17th, 2008, 08:38 AM	#2
Jay Gladwell Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,244	You would definitely want to shoot at 1080/25p (for PAL). Any other settings, such as Picture Profiles, would be totally subjective and dependent on each individual film project. Having said that, I'm confident others will offer specifics.

October 17th, 2008, 11:08 AM	#3
Mark David Williams Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Hertfordshire UK Posts: 414	I would have thought a cine 1 or 2 with Bills settings.. Also I'd like to know if anyone has used Picture Profiles to create the look of different film stocks?

October 17th, 2008, 11:35 AM	#5
Marcos Luger New Boot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Caracas - Venezuela Posts: 10	Probably Mark has a Pal camera that only does 25p... As for a picture profile, well this is my personal opinion, but I rather do any color correction in post.

October 17th, 2008, 12:35 PM	#8
Mark David Williams Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Hertfordshire UK Posts: 414	Well the UK version of the EX-1 does NTSC so I can do 24p.. But I don't think there is a problem with 25P for filmout today. I'd love to be able to dial in a film stock in the PP's and then compose my scene on a monitor and make adjustments with camera settings to get the best pic with those settings! But I also agree that post is the best way to change your mind later.

October 17th, 2008, 05:57 PM	#11
Jason Bodnar Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 376	A lot of the New theaters have digital projection and I have heard a most of the Film festivals are starting to offer digital projection, in case you did not want to shoot 24p and dish out the crazy amount of money to go to actual Film. I just shot an independent project which is going the digital projection route and I shot 1080 30p and used my own customer Profile.