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Phil Hanna October 20th, 2008 07:31 PM

Footage strobes on pans and moves
 
I can't put my finger on it, but it seems since I got my camera back from the Sony update, I am getting beautiful pictures, but when I move the camera (I have a Steadicam type device) the movement seems very fast and blurry. I don't recall getting this before I sent the camera into Sony for the update. Is anyone else having this issue, or do I have a setting incorrect?

Phil

Steven Thomas October 20th, 2008 07:52 PM

shutter set to OFF located on the front of the EX1?

Phil Hanna October 20th, 2008 08:01 PM

thanks!
 
No. It is on. I recently switched to 24P and shot some footage. I don't think that would cause it. I am wondering if I shot some of this stuff with Auto Focus and that is causing some of the blur?

Phil

Jay Gladwell October 21st, 2008 06:48 AM

Phil, can you post a clip showing the problem?

Alister Chapman October 22nd, 2008 11:07 AM

24P will look soft with movement compared to 30P or 60i unless you use a 180 degree shutter.

Phil Hanna October 22nd, 2008 09:07 PM

Sample of problem
 
I put together a few clips of the issue. It seems things don't stay in focus when I move the camera quickly. Is this a long GOP issue? Anyway, as you all requested, here is the link to the stuff. It is shot using the EX1 on the Flycam 6000. It sure takes a while to get use to the steadicam style system.

Thanks,

Phil

Here is the Vimeo link:
Flycam 6000 Practice Session - Sony PMW-EX1 & EX3 on Vimeo

Buck Forester October 22nd, 2008 09:55 PM

What I saw in some of the footage is what I'm experiencing. Especially with something like the palm leaves... razor sharp when you pause your camera's motion, and then as soon as you do a slow pan the sharpness drops considerably. It's not noticeable when panning the ocean so much, just close up 'fine' things. Nice footage by the way.

Tom Roper October 22nd, 2008 09:56 PM

You flycammed all around that useless bird, and when a pretty girl finally appears in the frame you get gutless! (I want a flycam! And a pretty beach! And warm weather!)

Phil Hanna October 23rd, 2008 08:07 AM

Thanks, Tom
 
I know, I am ashamed of myself. I had other shot following the girl down the beach, but hit the button and STOPPED recording! I should be sent back to Kodak 8mm school for that!
Getting use to the Flycam is hard work. I am still trying to get it balanced properly. I am gaining on the process, but much is trial and error.

Phil

Malcolm Hamilton October 23rd, 2008 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alister Chapman (Post 954220)
24P will look soft with movement compared to 30P or 60i unless you use a 180 degree shutter.

Hi Alister,
I shoot 24P. What should I have my shutter set at to make it 180 degrees? I have mine set at 1/48.
Cheers, Malcolm

Steven Thomas October 23rd, 2008 09:07 AM

24P with 1/48 shutter is 180 degree.

Malcolm Hamilton October 23rd, 2008 10:36 AM

Thanks Steven. Malcolm

Steven Thomas October 25th, 2008 07:12 PM

Jim Arthurs offered one heck of a test to put the whole EX1 motion questions to rest:
DVXuser.com -- The online community for filmmaking - View Single Post - Motion and video

Over the years, I've learned not to trust motion from PC LCD displays. The EX1 rendered to BluRay, DVD or other post media formats look great displayed on HDTV.

Mike Chandler October 25th, 2008 07:35 PM

Are there suggested shutter settings for shooting 60i or 30p? I usually shoot 24p/1/48, but have an upcoming shoot where the client wants one of those. There will be some handheld work.

Barry J. Anwender October 25th, 2008 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Chandler (Post 955614)
Are there suggested shutter settings for shooting 60i or 30p? I usually shoot 24p/1/48, but have an upcoming shoot where the client wants one of those. There will be some handheld work.

1/60 or off for 60i
1/60 for 30P


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