Delivery of XDCAM .MOV footage at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Sony XAVC / XDCAM / NXCAM / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Sony XDCAM EX Pro Handhelds

Sony XDCAM EX Pro Handhelds
Sony PMW-300, PXW-X200, PXW-X180 (back to EX3 & EX1) recording to SxS flash memory.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old October 29th, 2008, 11:33 AM   #1
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 54
Delivery of XDCAM .MOV footage

Greetings all,
I shot several hours of video footage of an event featuring several different presenters (with my EX-1). I am Mac based, FCP all current version(6.0.4). I want to distribute the footage to the individual presenters.
I have all the files transcoded into .mov files--used FCP to clean them up and edit out various unwanted parts. Then did a "save as self contained quicktime file"--no conversion.
The client has quicktime and is unable to read them. He says quicktime tells him he needs some plug-in to view the files. I believe they are PC based.
So my questions:
1. What do they need in order to play my XDCAM Files--do they need a more current version of quicktime, or will these files not work on any PC
2. Is there any video editor on the PC side that can handle these files?
3. Is FCP the only Mac editor that can deal with them?
4. What do you all deliver raw footage in such as case--wmv 9 using the flip4mac converter?

Thanks in advance, I don't want to tell them to keep trying stuff with out checking first here.
-CC
Chip Curry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 29th, 2008, 12:13 PM   #2
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 157
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chip Curry View Post
1. What do they need in order to play my XDCAM Files--do they need a more current version of quicktime, or will these files not work on any PC
I have this problem. There seems to be no EX-QT codec for windows.

You may export as something the customer can use, uncompressed or whatever (I use MPEG-2 program stream, .mpeg in highest quality, 40 Mbps). H.264 should work but the my customer prefers MPEG-2 which is easier for his NLE (Premiere).

Perhaps you can send the customer the BPAV-folders so he can import it to his NLE. Use XDCAM Clip Browser to send only the necessary clips.

Use Compressor to export 5 seconds in many codecs and let the customer find out which one is working.

Last edited by Sverker Hahn; October 29th, 2008 at 12:16 PM. Reason: Adding text.
Sverker Hahn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 29th, 2008, 12:54 PM   #3
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: santa fe, nm
Posts: 3,264
Images: 10
Cineform Neo works really great as an interplatform codec. so does Sheer at www.bitjazz.com. The Apple implementation of H.264 has gamma issues, I wouldn't use it.
Bill Ravens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 29th, 2008, 02:51 PM   #4
Major Player
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Agua Blanca Ibiza
Posts: 303
sorry double post - internet playing up!
__________________
Another Sunny Day in Ibiza
Paul Newman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 29th, 2008, 02:53 PM   #5
Major Player
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Agua Blanca Ibiza
Posts: 303
Are you not able to output .xmf files ie: standard XdCAM HD which can be read by most NLE's, or output to a new BPAV? I'm not sure if FCP does this easily or not. I was under the impression that XDCAM HD was either 25mbs or 35mbs and now 50mbs .mxf not XDCam.mov - or with the EX1/3, mp4 wrapped in the BPAV folder structure.

Paul
__________________
Another Sunny Day in Ibiza
Paul Newman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 29th, 2008, 04:03 PM   #6
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 2,222
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chip Curry View Post
1. What do they need in order to play my XDCAM Files--do they need a more current version of quicktime, or will these files not work on any PC
2. Is there any video editor on the PC side that can handle these files?
I had this issue with Mac-based AVID Media Composer (aka AMC) on my client's side. AMC 3.0 handled the XMF files exported from the Sony ClipBrowser 2 with no problems as did Sony Vegas 8 (WinXP). This was the easiest for me as ClipBrowser provides a batch conversion with no quality loss in conversion from MP4 to XMF. AMC 2.7.7 or earlier was unable to read them, according to the editor. For easy viewing of the clips, try VLC Media Player (0.92 or later). It plays the audio and video, but stereo files seem to be mono on my WinXP machine.
Gints Klimanis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 29th, 2008, 04:57 PM   #7
Major Player
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 596
Chip,

When this happened to me, I was on the PC end. It turns out that the problem was that I didn't have QT Pro - only the free version. A mac-based friend (yes, he's a mac, I'm a PC.) took the files and re-rendered them (still as an mov) and they were fine to me. Perhaps it's a quicktime pro thing?
__________________
Sony EX3, Vegas 9.0 64bit, Windows 7(64), Core i7, 12GB, RAID1 & 0, HotSwap SATA, 30" LCD(2560x1600)-GTX285 & 24" LCD(1360x768)-7800GT
Ted OMalley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 29th, 2008, 06:55 PM   #8
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA
Posts: 3,782
I thought I posted this elsewhere on this forum
Calibrated{Q} XD Decode

XDCAM EX MOV codec to play on any Mac withtout FCP or Windows box.
Craig Seeman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 29th, 2008, 10:27 PM   #9
New Boot
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 15
XDCam playback in QT.

Hi Chip, I struggled with this same "missing plugin" issue recently when trying to play a QT HDV and XDCam EX film on another mac and discovered the solution (in my case, anyway). I hope it works for you.

On the Mac that plays the QT, go to MacHD/Library/Quicktime/AppleHDVcodec.component

Copy the AppleHDV codec to the other macs in the same directory and you'll be able to play the XDCam (and HDV) files on those machines.

We did try purchasing QT Pro from Apple with no success on one of the Mac's that didn't initially play the file.

My guess is that this codec is installed by FCS and not QT Pro.
John Fante is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 29th, 2008, 11:03 PM   #10
Major Player
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 596
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Fante View Post
On the Mac that plays the QT, go to MacHD/Library/Quicktime/AppleHDVcodec.component

Copy the AppleHDV codec to the other macs in the same directory and you'll be able to play the XDCam (and HDV) files on those machines.

We did try purchasing QT Pro from Apple with no success on one of the Mac's that didn't initially play the file.

My guess is that this codec is installed by FCS and not QT Pro.
Or, listen to John - sounds like he knows better than me!
__________________
Sony EX3, Vegas 9.0 64bit, Windows 7(64), Core i7, 12GB, RAID1 & 0, HotSwap SATA, 30" LCD(2560x1600)-GTX285 & 24" LCD(1360x768)-7800GT
Ted OMalley is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Sony XAVC / XDCAM / NXCAM / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Sony XDCAM EX Pro Handhelds

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:20 PM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2017 The Digital Video Information Network