SxS reader alternatives at DVinfo.net

Enrique Orozco Robles · January 17th, 2009, 12:50 PM

exploring functional options to the sony reader (and that works with the MxR combo) found this:

MicroU2E-MV USB 2.0 to USB Mode ExpressCard 34|54 Multi-Voltage Host Adapter, Synchrotech

maybe has been mentioned before... just want feedback about it....

Kind Regards

Floris de Rijke · January 17th, 2009, 01:12 PM

The official Sony USB reader doesn't work with the MxR because the MxR isn't a "true" ExpressCard and since this USB to ExpressCard reader only supports USB type media one would think this should work perfectely with the MxR, but so do all SD card readers when you would simpely remove the SD card from the MxR reader.

Bottom line is that this solution doesn't really add anyting to other existing solutions available on the market, especially at this high price.

Enrique Orozco Robles · January 17th, 2009, 02:34 PM

... I was thinking in only ONE reader device for both SxS and MxR combo.... the cost of the device is only 48 USD .... how much faster is express card vs. USB ?? ... the other thing is I like to treat my MxR combos as one unit ...not ejecting the SDHC anytime I need to back up my clips .... thanks anyway, just exploring options.....

John Hedgecoe · January 17th, 2009, 08:36 PM

The expresscard is significantly faster than USB. Another option, if speed is what you are after, might be a firewire, especially firewire 800, card reader. I know they make these for CF, not sure if an SDHC version exists.

However, the best alternative I have found is to get a laptop with an ExpressCard/34 slot.

Michael B. McGee · January 18th, 2009, 07:44 PM

However, the best alternative I have found is to get a laptop with an ExpressCard/34 slot.[/QUOTE]

Booya!!!!

Buba Kastorski · January 19th, 2009, 10:47 AM

The best alternative I've found - get rid of the SxS and use SDHC cards with the MxR adapter

Paul Inglis · January 19th, 2009, 12:08 PM

I'm waiting for the arrival of my MxR Adaptors and SDHC Cards. However when they do arrive I am thinking about purchasing the Delkin SD to CF Adaptor as I hope to be able to use it in conjunction with my Firewire 800 CF Reader, which will hopefully give me faster download times than USB2.0.

It may not work, but I reckon it's worth a try!

Mitchell Lewis · January 19th, 2009, 11:58 PM

PCI Express to ExpressCard 34|54 Slot Drive Read-Writer, Synchrotech

Brooks Graham · January 20th, 2009, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitchell Lewis

PCI Express to ExpressCard 34|54 Slot Drive Read-Writer, Synchrotech

I've looked at that card in the past, but was scared off since it appears that you have to reboot after you insert the Expresscard and again when it is removed. Have they fixed that problem?

If it was hot-swappable, that would make it almost usable. The other downside is the backside: the slots on my workstation are in the back and my workstation is under the desk.

For now, a MacBookPro serves as a card reader for me.

James Huenergardt · January 20th, 2009, 12:31 AM

I wish someone would make a PC Express 34 to Firewire 800 adapter.

I'm getting tired of having to copy my files off using my MBP to a hard drive, then copy them from that hard drive to my Mac Pro's Raid setup.

Oh well...

Brooks Graham · January 20th, 2009, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Huenergardt

I wish someone would make a PC Express 34 to Firewire 800 adapter.

I'm getting tired of having to copy my files off using my MBP to a hard drive, then copy them from that hard drive to my Mac Pro's Raid setup.

Oh well...

Have you tried Gigabit Ethernet? IIRC, I get pretty decent speeds on my network. I'd benchmark it, but just landed in a foreign country (Canada) and the network speed between my MBP and my edit station is drastically reduced at the moment. ;-)

Mitchell Lewis · January 20th, 2009, 01:11 AM

Personally I like copying my footage to a hard drive and then to my RAID. That way I have the original BPAV file and the MOV files. In essence and backup in case something went wrong.

I'm sorry I don't have anymore info about the PCIe Express Card reader. I remembered that I had seen it somewhere and thought I'd post the link for you in case you hadn't seen it.

We kind of screwed up when we bought our system. We purchased 2 Sony card readers when we could have gotten by with one as I use my MacBookPro to transfer to a hard drive and then to my RAID. My coworker doesn't have a laptop so he uses the Sony reader (almost 1/2 the transfer rate but still much better than capturing from tape)

Brooks Graham · January 20th, 2009, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitchell Lewis

Personally I like copying my footage to a hard drive and then to my RAID. That way I have the original BPAV file and the MOV files. In essence and backup in case something went wrong.

Ahh, yes. That's what I do too. But I hold the dump from the card on a 7200rpm 3.5" FW800 attached to the MBP, then copy the MOV files via GB Ethernet over to the big station. The external drive then goes on a shelf so I can't mess it up. At some point soon after, the BPAV gets "archived" off to optical and sent offsite once a month.

I use the network to transfer the MOV files since it's faster than a single spindle can read and it's easier and I'm lazy. ;-) (and now that I think about it, it's one less opportunity for the external drive to get accidentally corrupted, not that such things happen often)

Using a network drive as the target for XDCAM Transfer doesn't sound like a great idea, although I can't articulate why at the moment. I just feel better writing locally first, then copying. I'm such a nerd about it that I frequently validate copies with MD5s.

Mitchell Lewis · January 20th, 2009, 01:35 AM

Sounds great Brian. I bought one of the new Western Digital 500GB My Passport Studio drives with FW800 ports. It doesn't need power and it seems plenty fast to use as "sneaker net" between my laptop and main editing system.

Interesting idea about Gigabit ethernet. I wonder which is faster? Thanks! :)

Craig Seeman · January 20th, 2009, 02:09 AM

I've been importing the SxS to my MacBookPro in the field and then GigE ethernet to my MacPro for editing at the office. FAAAST!

Of course I'm using MxR solution now so I don't copy anything in the field and use SDHC to USB card reader to MacPro. 2x with ClipBrowser CRC on and 4X with CRC off.

January 17th, 2009, 12:50 PM	#1
Enrique Orozco Robles Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chihuahua MEXICO Posts: 146	SxS reader alternatives exploring functional options to the sony reader (and that works with the MxR combo) found this: MicroU2E-MV USB 2.0 to USB Mode ExpressCard 34\|54 Multi-Voltage Host Adapter, Synchrotech maybe has been mentioned before... just want feedback about it.... Kind Regards __________________ Enrique Orozco - Sony/JVC/Nikon/Panny cams, DJI/Yuneec drones, VegasPro www.aerofilm.com.mx

January 17th, 2009, 01:12 PM	#2
Floris de Rijke New Boot Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Posts: 24	The official Sony USB reader doesn't work with the MxR because the MxR isn't a "true" ExpressCard and since this USB to ExpressCard reader only supports USB type media one would think this should work perfectely with the MxR, but so do all SD card readers when you would simpely remove the SD card from the MxR reader. Bottom line is that this solution doesn't really add anyting to other existing solutions available on the market, especially at this high price. __________________ Sony PMW-EX1, Manfrotto 503HDV & 525 MVB, Canon 7D, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 IS, Tokina 11-16 f/2.8, Canon 50mm f/1.4, FCP 6 on MacBook Pro 2,4 Ghz, 4GB RAM, 4TB Raid

January 17th, 2009, 02:34 PM	#3
Enrique Orozco Robles Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chihuahua MEXICO Posts: 146	... I was thinking in only ONE reader device for both SxS and MxR combo.... the cost of the device is only 48 USD .... how much faster is express card vs. USB ?? ... the other thing is I like to treat my MxR combos as one unit ...not ejecting the SDHC anytime I need to back up my clips .... thanks anyway, just exploring options..... __________________ Enrique Orozco - Sony/JVC/Nikon/Panny cams, DJI/Yuneec drones, VegasPro www.aerofilm.com.mx

January 18th, 2009, 07:44 PM	#5
Michael B. McGee Major Player Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 318	However, the best alternative I have found is to get a laptop with an ExpressCard/34 slot.[/QUOTE] Booya!!!! __________________ Los Angeles, CA DP/Cam Op www.MichaelBMcGee.co

January 19th, 2009, 11:58 PM	#8
Mitchell Lewis Trustee Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 1,124	PCI Express to ExpressCard 34\|54 Slot Drive Read-Writer, Synchrotech __________________ Sony EX3, Canon 5D MkII, Chrosziel Matte Box, Sachtler tripod, Steadicam Flyer, Mac Pro, Apple/Adobe software - 20 years as a local videographer/editor

January 17th, 2009, 08:36 PM	#4
John Hedgecoe Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 146	The expresscard is significantly faster than USB. Another option, if speed is what you are after, might be a firewire, especially firewire 800, card reader. I know they make these for CF, not sure if an SDHC version exists. However, the best alternative I have found is to get a laptop with an ExpressCard/34 slot.

January 19th, 2009, 10:47 AM	#6
Buba Kastorski Trustee Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,414	The best alternative I've found - get rid of the SxS and use SDHC cards with the MxR adapter

January 19th, 2009, 12:08 PM	#7
Paul Inglis Major Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: British Isles Posts: 415	I'm waiting for the arrival of my MxR Adaptors and SDHC Cards. However when they do arrive I am thinking about purchasing the Delkin SD to CF Adaptor as I hope to be able to use it in conjunction with my Firewire 800 CF Reader, which will hopefully give me faster download times than USB2.0. It may not work, but I reckon it's worth a try!

January 20th, 2009, 12:31 AM	#10
James Huenergardt Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chehalis, WA Posts: 513	I wish someone would make a PC Express 34 to Firewire 800 adapter. I'm getting tired of having to copy my files off using my MBP to a hard drive, then copy them from that hard drive to my Mac Pro's Raid setup. Oh well... __________________ Reel Inspirations - www.reelinspirations.com Commercials, Dramas, Image Pieces, Documentaries, Motion Graphics

January 20th, 2009, 01:11 AM	#12
Mitchell Lewis Trustee Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 1,124	Personally I like copying my footage to a hard drive and then to my RAID. That way I have the original BPAV file and the MOV files. In essence and backup in case something went wrong. I'm sorry I don't have anymore info about the PCIe Express Card reader. I remembered that I had seen it somewhere and thought I'd post the link for you in case you hadn't seen it. We kind of screwed up when we bought our system. We purchased 2 Sony card readers when we could have gotten by with one as I use my MacBookPro to transfer to a hard drive and then to my RAID. My coworker doesn't have a laptop so he uses the Sony reader (almost 1/2 the transfer rate but still much better than capturing from tape) __________________ Sony EX3, Canon 5D MkII, Chrosziel Matte Box, Sachtler tripod, Steadicam Flyer, Mac Pro, Apple/Adobe software - 20 years as a local videographer/editor

January 20th, 2009, 01:35 AM	#14
Mitchell Lewis Trustee Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 1,124	Sounds great Brian. I bought one of the new Western Digital 500GB My Passport Studio drives with FW800 ports. It doesn't need power and it seems plenty fast to use as "sneaker net" between my laptop and main editing system. Interesting idea about Gigabit ethernet. I wonder which is faster? Thanks! :) __________________ Sony EX3, Canon 5D MkII, Chrosziel Matte Box, Sachtler tripod, Steadicam Flyer, Mac Pro, Apple/Adobe software - 20 years as a local videographer/editor

January 20th, 2009, 02:09 AM	#15
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	I've been importing the SxS to my MacBookPro in the field and then GigE ethernet to my MacPro for editing at the office. FAAAST! Of course I'm using MxR solution now so I don't copy anything in the field and use SDHC to USB card reader to MacPro. 2x with ClipBrowser CRC on and 4X with CRC off.