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James Dierx January 27th, 2009 01:07 PM

New letus relay with the EX3?
 
Letus 2/3" Compact Relay*::*Letus Relay Lenses*::*LetusDirect

Will that attach onto the EX3 body?

What are your thoughts on the new relay? There's also the pro version..

Letus 2/3" Pro Relay*::*Letus Relay Lenses*::*LetusDirect

Edit: Jumped the gun. I realize that the EX3 is 1/2" so no it will not fit. But there was talk of a 2/3" to 1/2" adapter.. I got a little over my head!

Mitchell Lewis January 27th, 2009 07:12 PM

The new relay will fit the EX3 with the adaptor that comes with the camera. (at least that's how I understand it)

Jason Davenport January 27th, 2009 10:16 PM

Your just swapping one lens for another..? I thought they were going to have a mount, direct to camera. Camera-letus extreme-35mm lens. It's just still, Camera-lens-Letus-35mm lens. What are you gaining? And now you'll need to spend 0ver 11,000.00 for whole thing, lens, letus, rail system. Wow.

Christopher Drews January 27th, 2009 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Davenport (Post 1002287)
What are you gaining?

Apparently, less light loss and a "one piece design", but agreed, uber expensive for what you get. Honestly, this would be great on a SI-2K. I could see this being feasible there.
-C

Steve Shovlar January 28th, 2009 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Davenport (Post 1002287)
Your just swapping one lens for another..? I thought they were going to have a mount, direct to camera. Camera-letus extreme-35mm lens. It's just still, Camera-lens-Letus-35mm lens. What are you gaining? And now you'll need to spend 0ver 11,000.00 for whole thing, lens, letus, rail system. Wow.

Have to totally agree. You are removing the stock lens, which is designed to work well with the camera it was made for, for another lens costing $6000. For that you could almost buy another EX3!

Is it worth $6000? ( plus impost duty and VAT) =£5800 in the UK!

Unless you have money to burn on gaining a stop or so, and are doing some kind of higher end production, it doesn't seem at all practical.

Perhaps others think differently and I would like to hear their views on investing in it.

Mitchell Lewis January 28th, 2009 08:26 AM

I was wrong.... A "little birdy" just told me:

"With this new adaptor on the EX3 the image will be cropped. A separate 1/2 inch adapter is on it's way."

That's all I know.

Dean Harrington January 28th, 2009 03:45 PM

2/3 adapter is not the ticket ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitchell Lewis (Post 1002454)
I was wrong.... A "little birdy" just told me:

"With this new adaptor on the EX3 the image will be cropped. A separate 1/2 inch adapter is on it's way."

That's all I know.

a 35mm lens to 1/2 censor B4 mount relay would be ideal. I know upside down image and DOF coming from the lens alone but that's the ticket for putting inexpensive but good glass on the camera! I would like to see something like this for about $2,000!

Mitchell Lewis January 28th, 2009 03:54 PM

Dean, that's not what's coming. This will be a "relay lens" that removes the need for using the stock EX3 lens WITH a Letus Ultimate. So you would still need BOTH the Letus Ultimate and the yet to be released relay lens.

The main advantage to the relay lens is that it would have a lower f-stop (larger aperture) than the stock EX3 lens. It will probably also be much shorter in length so your rig wouldn't be so front heavy.

The big question is the cost. Hopefully it will relatively affordable.

Steve Shovlar January 28th, 2009 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitchell Lewis (Post 1002732)

The big question is the cost. Hopefully it will relatively affordable.

Its going to be $6000 plus taxes.

Benjamin Eckstein January 28th, 2009 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Davenport (Post 1002287)
Your just swapping one lens for another..? I thought they were going to have a mount, direct to camera. Camera-letus extreme-35mm lens. It's just still, Camera-lens-Letus-35mm lens. What are you gaining? And now you'll need to spend 0ver 11,000.00 for whole thing, lens, letus, rail system. Wow.

I believe that the relay system was always going to be another lens. There was no other way for the image in the ground glass to get to the CCD/CMOS without another lens. The adaptors just were not made to work any other way. There are many weight/size advantages to the relay though, and I wouldn't be surprised if its a sharper image too.

Jason Davenport January 29th, 2009 12:04 AM

Hopefully the 1/2 will be a bit cheaper. But I guess the compact would be the way to go. Would rather loose a little bit of stop over shooting through 12 plus pieces of glass.
Still cheaper than $27,000 dollar Pro 35. Glass will always cost us.

Dean Harrington January 29th, 2009 02:32 AM

Yeah ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitchell Lewis (Post 1002732)
Dean, that's not what's coming. This will be a "relay lens" that removes the need for using the stock EX3 lens WITH a Letus Ultimate. So you would still need BOTH the Letus Ultimate and the yet to be released relay lens.

The main advantage to the relay lens is that it would have a lower f-stop (larger aperture) than the stock EX3 lens. It will probably also be much shorter in length so your rig wouldn't be so front heavy.

The big question is the cost. Hopefully it will relatively affordable.

I know it's to be used with the letus but ... I was just dreaming. There's a 2/3 relay made in Greece and there's a B4 mount with a Nikon mount made in England I think. It would be sweet to have the relay attach to lens directly. I've got the SGBlade coming and I'm up for something on this level but ... I'll wait and see!

Mitchell Lewis January 29th, 2009 09:01 AM

A little more info from my secret source:

"The Letus EX-3 relay is ready to go. It's a F/1.5 lens. It's shorter than the longer B4 mount but longer than the shorter one. Get it? "

Still waiting on cost. (hopefully not $6000)

James Dierx January 29th, 2009 12:25 PM

I want it.. but I'm not willing to pay over $3,500!

Mitchell Lewis January 29th, 2009 12:27 PM

^^^^^^I agree.


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