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Chip Curry · February 1st, 2009, 12:52 PM

I have a client who wants a 3 minute looping video for a trade show. They want HD footage to appear on their consumer HD TV, 45" wide.

I have given them a standard DVD but it is "Too fuzzy" for them.

They are Dell PC based, I am all Apple, using EX-1. I am requesting suggestions on how to best or easily accomplish this.

1. Could I give them a H264 encoded 1080p or 720p video and they download Quicktime and play it to output to the Sony HD TV from their laptops? (I don't know what connectors would be necessary)

2. Possibly they could buy a Blu-Ray player that up-converts a standard DVD to make it less Fuzzy. (any suggestions on best player)

or..
3. Should I use the Toast 10 Blu-Ray build to standard DVD for HD performance and they buy a Blu-Ray player. Will the Toast builder do a looping video?

4. I have Adobe Encore but it has proven very buggy and a pain compared to my experience with DVD SP 4.0

Thanks for any advice.

CC

Barry J. Anwender · February 1st, 2009, 01:14 PM

Chip, I'd say option #3 is your best bet. Toast 10 has options with or without menus to:

a) "Auto-play disc on insert"
b) "Play all items continuously"

Play true EX-XDCAM HD video on a cheap DVD via a Blu-ray player. I will look great. Check what HD display resolutions are available on their HDTV and shoot your video accordingly. Good Luck & Cheers!

Chip Curry · February 1st, 2009, 01:33 PM

Thanks Barry,
Are there any caveats as to which Blu Ray player they should purchase? Eg, I am seeing this "Profile 1.1 or 2.0" option
CC

Barry J. Anwender · February 1st, 2009, 01:43 PM

Profile 2.0 is for discs that have Blu-disc's with interactive internet features. Yes there are some commercially available Blu-ray discs now appearing with internet features. However, for us mere mortals these are features not yet supported by Blu-ray authoring software. A profile 1.1 player will do fine.

A word of caution is to ensure the firmware of your Blu-ray player is up to date. Some of the earlier models shipped before the final profile 1.1 spec was nailed down. It is very easy to upgrade the Blu-ray player's firmware so there is no need for concern if needs to be done. Cheers!

Joachim Hoge · February 1st, 2009, 03:00 PM

Or you could use Western Digital HD TV, a $100 (or so) box that you connect to the HDTV with HDMI.
The box has 2 USB ports and you can attach a USB stick or external Hard Disk and play a number of formats in HD (even 1080P).
I have it at home and use FC. I have played both 720 and 1080 EX footage on my 42 HDTV using this box and it looks great.
Chck out the thread called someting like "the magic box for viewing EX footage"
PS you can´t play the native files on the box, but I guess you have edited the footage already and should be good to go.

There is also a similar box called Popcorn 110 or something, but I haven´t used it

Steve Gibbons · February 1st, 2009, 05:57 PM

...or VLC Player with a notebook PC connected to the TV.

Mitchell Lewis · February 1st, 2009, 07:00 PM

If you go the Blu-Ray route, I'd bring the finished disc with out and try it in the store Blu-Ray player before you buy.

I don't have any first hand experience with it yet, but the Western Digital unit sure sounds like a good way to go. Too bad the only option is to connect a hard drive. A SD card would be a slick option. (maybe you can use a USB thumb drive?)

Joachim Hoge · February 2nd, 2009, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitchell Lewis

If you go the Blu-Ray route, I'd bring the finished disc with out and try it in the store Blu-Ray player before you buy.

I don't have any first hand experience with it yet, but the Western Digital unit sure sounds like a good way to go. Too bad the only option is to connect a hard drive. A SD card would be a slick option. (maybe you can use a USB thumb drive?)

I have successfully used a USB thumb drive to view EX footage with the WD HDTV.
I do remember someone saying a message (the file name I think) is displayed for 3 seconds when the loop starts over. Not sure as I haven´t looped anything yet.
The Popcorn 110 device have a hard drive in the box, the WD don´t.
They come with remotes so no computer need

Craig Terott · February 2nd, 2009, 10:11 AM

This is easy...

Apple TV

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Mitchell Lewis · February 2nd, 2009, 10:15 AM

Apple TV is only 730p

Craig Terott · February 3rd, 2009, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitchell Lewis

Apple TV is only 730p

Have you seen EX1 video on a HD set with Apple TV?

I have video shot with my Z1, and video shot with my EX1. I have compared video displyed on my LCD monitor at 1080 and an 42" LCD HDTV that plays Apple TV files. The biggest quality difference I can see isn't between the 1080i & 720p ...it's between video shot with the Z1 and video shot with the EX1.

Put some quality video shot with the EX1 on an HD set with an Apple TV and you won't scoff at it.

Steve Shovlar · February 3rd, 2009, 09:26 AM

I do trade shows every Sunday and its very easy. I use a Popcorn Hour A-110.

Ok edit your clip, export to H.264 HD clip. Import into Popcorn Hour and put the clip on loop. Plus Popcorn Hour into the TV via HDMI.

Works a treat and Popcorn Hour plays virtually everything thrown at it. I use mne at home between trade shows to stream movies to my plasma.

February 1st, 2009, 12:52 PM	#1
Chip Curry Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 54	Display HD footage Consumer HD TV I have a client who wants a 3 minute looping video for a trade show. They want HD footage to appear on their consumer HD TV, 45" wide. I have given them a standard DVD but it is "Too fuzzy" for them. They are Dell PC based, I am all Apple, using EX-1. I am requesting suggestions on how to best or easily accomplish this. 1. Could I give them a H264 encoded 1080p or 720p video and they download Quicktime and play it to output to the Sony HD TV from their laptops? (I don't know what connectors would be necessary) 2. Possibly they could buy a Blu-Ray player that up-converts a standard DVD to make it less Fuzzy. (any suggestions on best player) or.. 3. Should I use the Toast 10 Blu-Ray build to standard DVD for HD performance and they buy a Blu-Ray player. Will the Toast builder do a looping video? 4. I have Adobe Encore but it has proven very buggy and a pain compared to my experience with DVD SP 4.0 Thanks for any advice. CC

February 1st, 2009, 07:00 PM	#7
Mitchell Lewis Trustee Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 1,124	If you go the Blu-Ray route, I'd bring the finished disc with out and try it in the store Blu-Ray player before you buy. I don't have any first hand experience with it yet, but the Western Digital unit sure sounds like a good way to go. Too bad the only option is to connect a hard drive. A SD card would be a slick option. (maybe you can use a USB thumb drive?) __________________ Sony EX3, Canon 5D MkII, Chrosziel Matte Box, Sachtler tripod, Steadicam Flyer, Mac Pro, Apple/Adobe software - 20 years as a local videographer/editor

February 2nd, 2009, 10:15 AM	#10
Mitchell Lewis Trustee Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 1,124	Apple TV is only 730p __________________ Sony EX3, Canon 5D MkII, Chrosziel Matte Box, Sachtler tripod, Steadicam Flyer, Mac Pro, Apple/Adobe software - 20 years as a local videographer/editor

February 1st, 2009, 01:14 PM	#2
Barry J. Anwender Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 382	Chip, I'd say option #3 is your best bet. Toast 10 has options with or without menus to: a) "Auto-play disc on insert" b) "Play all items continuously" Play true EX-XDCAM HD video on a cheap DVD via a Blu-ray player. I will look great. Check what HD display resolutions are available on their HDTV and shoot your video accordingly. Good Luck & Cheers!

February 1st, 2009, 01:33 PM	#3
Chip Curry Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 54	Thanks Barry, Are there any caveats as to which Blu Ray player they should purchase? Eg, I am seeing this "Profile 1.1 or 2.0" option CC

February 1st, 2009, 01:43 PM	#4
Barry J. Anwender Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 382	Profile 2.0 is for discs that have Blu-disc's with interactive internet features. Yes there are some commercially available Blu-ray discs now appearing with internet features. However, for us mere mortals these are features not yet supported by Blu-ray authoring software. A profile 1.1 player will do fine. A word of caution is to ensure the firmware of your Blu-ray player is up to date. Some of the earlier models shipped before the final profile 1.1 spec was nailed down. It is very easy to upgrade the Blu-ray player's firmware so there is no need for concern if needs to be done. Cheers!

February 1st, 2009, 03:00 PM	#5
Joachim Hoge Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 402	Or you could use Western Digital HD TV, a $100 (or so) box that you connect to the HDTV with HDMI. The box has 2 USB ports and you can attach a USB stick or external Hard Disk and play a number of formats in HD (even 1080P). I have it at home and use FC. I have played both 720 and 1080 EX footage on my 42 HDTV using this box and it looks great. Chck out the thread called someting like "the magic box for viewing EX footage" PS you can´t play the native files on the box, but I guess you have edited the footage already and should be good to go. There is also a similar box called Popcorn 110 or something, but I haven´t used it

February 1st, 2009, 05:57 PM	#6
Steve Gibbons Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bridgenorth Posts: 116	...or VLC Player with a notebook PC connected to the TV.

February 2nd, 2009, 10:11 AM	#9
Craig Terott Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 691	This is easy... Apple TV Apple TV - Apple Store (U.S.)

February 3rd, 2009, 09:26 AM	#12
Steve Shovlar Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dorset UK Posts: 697	I do trade shows every Sunday and its very easy. I use a Popcorn Hour A-110. Ok edit your clip, export to H.264 HD clip. Import into Popcorn Hour and put the clip on loop. Plus Popcorn Hour into the TV via HDMI. Works a treat and Popcorn Hour plays virtually everything thrown at it. I use mne at home between trade shows to stream movies to my plasma.