New Avid release could be a revolution for XDCAM at DVinfo.net

Ola Christoffersson · March 2nd, 2009, 03:21 PM

It seems like the release of Media Composer 3.5 is very close.

Among other new features they introduce what they call: "Avid Media Access (AMA)
Native End to End support for XDCAM
Full native metadata and disc/card support for XDCAM HD/EX and P2"

If it is even close to what is described here: Studio Daily Blog Avid - dongle free in 2009 (and other advancements)
It will mean a revolutionary better handling of EX-media.

Anybody else know more?

Ola Christoffersson · March 2nd, 2009, 03:35 PM

Here's Avids pressrelease: Avid Delivers Native XDCAM Support and Industry First Stereoscopic 3D Capabilities With Latest Versions of Editing Software

And a quote: "-- AMA, or Avid Media Access Architecture: Customers can automatically
link clips from a third-party volume (Panasonic P2 or Sony XDCAM HD/EX)
devices into an Avid editing bin, without having to transcode or store the
media on their system."

Just insert your SDHC or SxS-card in your laptop and edit away. Seems to good to be true.

Barry J. Weckesser · March 2nd, 2009, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ola Christoffersson

Here's Avids pressrelease: Avid Delivers Native XDCAM Support and Industry First Stereoscopic 3D Capabilities With Latest Versions of Editing Software

And a quote: "-- AMA, or Avid Media Access Architecture: Customers can automatically
link clips from a third-party volume (Panasonic P2 or Sony XDCAM HD/EX)
devices into an Avid editing bin, without having to transcode or store the
media on their system."

Just insert your SDHC or SxS-card in your laptop and edit away. Seems to good to be true.

Hasn't Grass Valley (Canopus) Edius had this capability for nearly a year now?

Uwe Boettcher · March 3rd, 2009, 01:01 AM

Yes. It works perfect with Edius!

Vincent Oliver · March 3rd, 2009, 01:28 AM

Let's not forget that Adobe Premierre also has this feature

Dalen Johnson · March 3rd, 2009, 02:34 AM

Whoa, wait...so your saying Final Cut didnt have this ability?
I knew it wouldnt do native AVCHD...but I suppose the same principle that applies there applies with XDCAM as well.

Anyway, sure Apple will update this by NAB, or with the next Final Cut...if they keep in the Video business that is. :)

Peace

dAlen

Torv Carlsen · March 3rd, 2009, 07:51 PM

Yeah, the new 3.5 Media Composer does indeed instantly recognize an SxS card when it is mounted. And yes, you can edit the footage from the SxS card directly.

But (there's always a but) I'll be damned if I can figure out how to move the footage to a hard drive without using Sony's Clip Browser software like we had to do in the past. The Avid AMA import doesn't seem to do much, unless I'm not using it correctly, a distinct possibility.

Getting the footage off the SxS card and onto the computer seems as convoluted as ever. Am I wrong?

Bill Ravens · March 3rd, 2009, 07:59 PM

Torv...

Yes, it's possible to copy the BPAV folders onto your hard drive and set things up so Avid sees it as a "virtual SxS card". Uploads to MC3.5 happen almost instantly...really quite nice.

Brian Luce · March 3rd, 2009, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalen Johnson

Whoa, wait...so your saying Final Cut didnt have this ability?
I knew it wouldnt do native AVCHD...but I suppose the same principle that applies there applies with XDCAM as well.

Anyway, sure Apple will update this by NAB, or with the next Final Cut...if they keep in the Video business that is. :)

Peace

dAlen

I'm just starting with Final Cut and have been too embarrassed to ask this. Until now. Does FCP transcode the native EX files into a discrete frame codec? Or has FCP figured out how to manage GOP?

Greg Voevodsky · March 5th, 2009, 12:01 AM

Glad to see Avid finally catch up. Too bad, I sold my system and bought FCP that has had a working solution upon XDcam's release. Sadly, Avid has been the tail of the dog with XDcam and Red native support. Their stock price and market share have tanked as a result of their lack of innovation and leadership. I'd be careful buying a new GM car or Avid - as they might not survive the hard times ahead.

Andrew Stone · March 5th, 2009, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Luce

I'm just starting with Final Cut and have been too embarrassed to ask this. Until now. Does FCP transcode the native EX files into a discrete frame codec? Or has FCP figured out how to manage GOP?

Brian,

Final Cut 6 (with an update) will recognize XDCAM footage more or less in it's native format. You import the footage using the Sony Transfer software and it merely puts a QuickTime "wrapper" around the XDCAM footage. It's still Long GOP like HDV but a better codec. You can render it into discrete frame codec as you say but it is not entirely necessary. I sometimes do and often don't. I do a final render out in a full frame/intraframe file and then send it to compressor to munch it into whatever final form I need it in.

March 2nd, 2009, 03:21 PM	#1
Ola Christoffersson Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 462	New Avid release could be a revolution for XDCAM It seems like the release of Media Composer 3.5 is very close. Among other new features they introduce what they call: "Avid Media Access (AMA) Native End to End support for XDCAM Full native metadata and disc/card support for XDCAM HD/EX and P2" If it is even close to what is described here: Studio Daily Blog Avid - dongle free in 2009 (and other advancements) It will mean a revolutionary better handling of EX-media. Anybody else know more? __________________ Ola Christoffersson, Kamrat produktion, Stockholm - Sweden www.kamrat.tv

March 2nd, 2009, 03:35 PM	#2
Ola Christoffersson Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 462	Here's Avids pressrelease: Avid Delivers Native XDCAM Support and Industry First Stereoscopic 3D Capabilities With Latest Versions of Editing Software And a quote: "-- AMA, or Avid Media Access Architecture: Customers can automatically link clips from a third-party volume (Panasonic P2 or Sony XDCAM HD/EX) devices into an Avid editing bin, without having to transcode or store the media on their system." Just insert your SDHC or SxS-card in your laptop and edit away. Seems to good to be true. __________________ Ola Christoffersson, Kamrat produktion, Stockholm - Sweden www.kamrat.tv

March 3rd, 2009, 01:28 AM	#5
Vincent Oliver Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chislehurst, London Posts: 1,724	Let's not forget that Adobe Premierre also has this feature __________________ Eyes are a deaf man’s ears. Ears are a blind man’s eyes

March 3rd, 2009, 01:01 AM	#4
Uwe Boettcher New Boot Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 21	Yes. It works perfect with Edius!

March 3rd, 2009, 02:34 AM	#6
Dalen Johnson Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Karcag, Hungary Posts: 77	Whoa, wait...so your saying Final Cut didnt have this ability? I knew it wouldnt do native AVCHD...but I suppose the same principle that applies there applies with XDCAM as well. Anyway, sure Apple will update this by NAB, or with the next Final Cut...if they keep in the Video business that is. :) Peace dAlen

March 3rd, 2009, 07:51 PM	#7
Torv Carlsen Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: Marin Country, California Posts: 26	Yeah, the new 3.5 Media Composer does indeed instantly recognize an SxS card when it is mounted. And yes, you can edit the footage from the SxS card directly. But (there's always a but) I'll be damned if I can figure out how to move the footage to a hard drive without using Sony's Clip Browser software like we had to do in the past. The Avid AMA import doesn't seem to do much, unless I'm not using it correctly, a distinct possibility. Getting the footage off the SxS card and onto the computer seems as convoluted as ever. Am I wrong?

March 3rd, 2009, 07:59 PM	#8
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	Torv... Yes, it's possible to copy the BPAV folders onto your hard drive and set things up so Avid sees it as a "virtual SxS card". Uploads to MC3.5 happen almost instantly...really quite nice.

March 5th, 2009, 12:01 AM	#10
Greg Voevodsky Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Portola Valley Posts: 105	Glad to see Avid finally catch up. Too bad, I sold my system and bought FCP that has had a working solution upon XDcam's release. Sadly, Avid has been the tail of the dog with XDcam and Red native support. Their stock price and market share have tanked as a result of their lack of innovation and leadership. I'd be careful buying a new GM car or Avid - as they might not survive the hard times ahead.