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Michael B. McGee March 11th, 2009 05:07 PM

Bleach Bypass: PP or Post
 
just wondering if anyone has achieved a bleach bypass look with their EX footage either done in camera or in post. if you have examples, that would be great and also list what your settings might have been, ie: P.P..

Thanks.

Mike Barber March 11th, 2009 09:19 PM

considering that the "bleach bypass effect" is a simulation of a process that is achieved in the development of the film (in other words, in post) I would gather that it is not easy (if possible) to achieve something very similar in camera.

David C. Williams March 11th, 2009 10:14 PM

Like most color effects, your better off doing this in post. Reduce saturation overall and with less blue/cyan, increase contrast with a gamma curve with a flat toe and head, add some grain perhaps. Best done by creating a CC filter, which you add to each clip, then tune it individually to match if needed.
Watch 1984 and Se7en.

Michael B. McGee March 11th, 2009 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David C. Williams (Post 1026392)
Like most color effects, your better off doing this in post. Reduce saturation overall and with less blue/cyan, increase contrast with a gamma curve with a flat toe and head, add some grain perhaps. Best done by creating a CC filter, which you add to each clip, then tune it individually to match if needed.
Watch 1984 and Se7en.


thanks david. i know of the look, i'm just wondering if people have tried to pull it off with the EX cameras. my original post stated: in camera or post. now, i'm really only concerned about doing it in camera since i'm not an editor or colorist/timer.

Serena Steuart March 12th, 2009 12:13 AM

This is much better and safer done in post. There are plug-ins for the effect (e.g. Magic Bullet).

Michael B. McGee March 12th, 2009 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serena Steuart (Post 1026426)
This is much better done in post. There are plug-ins for the effect (e.g. Magic Bullet).


that's what i'm afraid of. i must learn how to edit.

thanks.

Mike Barber March 12th, 2009 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael B. McGee (Post 1026433)
that's what i'm afraid of. i must learn how to edit.

You say that like it is a bad thing, I assure you it is not.

Bill Ward March 12th, 2009 12:17 PM

It's gotta be edited sometime. The only question is whether you learn how to apply the look in post, or your editor does!

As a general rule though, post is best. You can try a hundred different looks without screwing up the source video. Do it in camera, and then hate the way it turned out? You may have irreversably altered the video beyond the point where you can change it back to what you want.

Mitchell Lewis March 12th, 2009 01:58 PM

Here's some test footage I shot when I first got our camera and 35mm adaptor. It's raw footage (unedited) but I applied the Look's Bleach Bypass to it without any additional tweeking. (you'll need Quicktime to view it)

http://www.ssscc.org/ftp/jiffy-lube-canal.mov

Serena Steuart March 12th, 2009 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael B. McGee (Post 1026433)
i must learn how to edit.

Editing is a basic skill essential for anyone using a film or video camera, even if the actual editing process is always done by a specialist. Perhaps you actually mean the nityy-gritty of operating an NLE? The basics are easily learned.

Kevin Wayne Jones March 12th, 2009 06:07 PM

"Color" contains a Bleach bypass effect/filter.

kj

Michael B. McGee March 14th, 2009 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Wayne Jones (Post 1026849)
"Color" contains a Bleach bypass effect/filter.

kj

yeah, i know. i'm sure Magic Bullets does too. that's why i posted this topic.

1) is it better to try in camera or wait until post?

2) if you gonna do it in post then what would be your PP settings be while acquiring the footage. any exposure compensations?

Daniel Weber March 14th, 2009 12:45 PM

Shoot as well exposed an image as possible. Try to give your editor/post person as much latitude as possible in the image. Try to almost shoot a flat image.

Daniel Weber

Michael B. McGee March 14th, 2009 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Weber (Post 1027613)
Shoot as well exposed an image as possible. Try to give your editor/post person as much latitude as possible in the image. Try to almost shoot a flat image.

Daniel Weber

thanks Daniel. i'll give it a try.


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