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Buba Kastorski · March 16th, 2009, 10:47 PM

Just shot the project for the client on EX, asked the editor what format he needs, he told me MP4 if OK, I gave him MP4s straight from the BPAV he can't open it ;
I am PC, he's a MAC FCP, I burned DVDs on (naturally) PC, what's the right way?
many thanks!

Alister Chapman · March 17th, 2009, 01:29 AM

You should not have taken the MP4's out of the BPAV folders. You need the entire BPAV folder and it's contents for FCP. Unless you have the original BPAV folders you will need to use the Clip Browser to recreate them by using the clip import function to import the MP4 files into a new BPAV folder.

The FCP editor will then need the Sony Transfer Tool software to import the clips into FCP. Once the transfer tool is installed from within FCP you go "File" "Import" "Sony XDCAM" to open the Transfer Tool and import the clips.

Barry J. Anwender · March 17th, 2009, 01:30 AM

Buba, you have two choices. One approach is to give your client the entire BPAV folder(s) (using Clip Browser to make the copy) and then let them use the Sony XDCAM Transfer 2.9 to read the files on the Mac. Secondly, re-wrap the video from the BPAV folder(s) into .mov formats so the client can use the EX footage on their Mac video editing system. Cheers! Thanks Alister, you beat me to the reply :-)

Paul Kellett · March 17th, 2009, 03:30 AM

FCP can use the mxf's as well, i've given my colleague mxf's plenty of times.
I'm on a pc, he's on a mac/fcp.

Paul.

Joachim Hoge · March 17th, 2009, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Kellett

FCP can use the mxf's as well, i've given my colleague mxf's plenty of times.
I'm on a pc, he's on a mac/fcp.

Paul.

How exactly do you this?
I´m curious as we always copy the BPAV folders between the PC and Mac. It would be great to get logged files directly

Paul Kellett · March 17th, 2009, 04:19 AM

When i first had my EX1, i used to rewrap to mxf as i transfered, i use vegas so i have no need for the full bapv folder. Nowadays i transfer the whole bapv becuase that way i can give the client the whole bapv.

Anyway, back to the early days, i shoot weddings with my colleague, he uses mac/fcp, i use pc, so i used to import/rewrap at the same time from the card onto one of my external drives, then i used to just copy the mxf files onto my little usb portable hard drive and take it round his house, then he'd just plug it into the mac and copy/paste (or whatever mac people call it, sorry i'm not mac literate).
My colleague has since bought an EX1, he then discovered fcp doesn't need mxf, but that's the way we did it in the early days. Nowadays i just give him the sdhc card and collect it a few days later.

A hard drive formatted on a pc can be read on a mac, but not written to by a mac, so it's ok for taking footage off the hard drive, like we were doing.
A hard drive formatted on a mac cannot be read or written to by a pc.

Paul.

Joachim Hoge · March 17th, 2009, 04:32 AM

Thanks Paul. I was aware of the hard drive possibility as we have used them to transfer BPAV folders back and forth.
I didn´t know that I could use the MFX wraps so I will try this out with my colleague.

Buba Kastorski · March 17th, 2009, 05:42 AM

BIG thank you to everyone!

Alister Chapman · March 17th, 2009, 01:22 PM

Format the hard drive using Fat32 and it can be read and written to by both Mac's and PC's. The only issue is the largest file you can have is 4Gb. However as the EX uses Fat32 so you won't get files over 4Gb from the camera.

MXF for NLE can be used for both FCP and PC's but it's a slightly odd format that can't be stuck on either an EX SxS card or a XDCAM ProDisc for playback. I prefer to keep things in a standard format that can be played back by some form of hardware.

Lets hope that one day we get a firmware update that allows us to record MXF's with our EX's.

March 16th, 2009, 10:47 PM	#1
Buba Kastorski Trustee Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,414	From PC to FCP help needed Just shot the project for the client on EX, asked the editor what format he needs, he told me MP4 if OK, I gave him MP4s straight from the BPAV he can't open it ; I am PC, he's a MAC FCP, I burned DVDs on (naturally) PC, what's the right way? many thanks! __________________ I love this place!

March 17th, 2009, 01:29 AM	#2
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	You should not have taken the MP4's out of the BPAV folders. You need the entire BPAV folder and it's contents for FCP. Unless you have the original BPAV folders you will need to use the Clip Browser to recreate them by using the clip import function to import the MP4 files into a new BPAV folder. The FCP editor will then need the Sony Transfer Tool software to import the clips into FCP. Once the transfer tool is installed from within FCP you go "File" "Import" "Sony XDCAM" to open the Transfer Tool and import the clips. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

March 17th, 2009, 03:30 AM	#4
Paul Kellett Trustee Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bristol UK Posts: 1,273	FCP can use the mxf's as well, i've given my colleague mxf's plenty of times. I'm on a pc, he's on a mac/fcp. Paul. __________________ Round 2 GH5,FZ2000

March 17th, 2009, 04:19 AM	#6
Paul Kellett Trustee Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bristol UK Posts: 1,273	When i first had my EX1, i used to rewrap to mxf as i transfered, i use vegas so i have no need for the full bapv folder. Nowadays i transfer the whole bapv becuase that way i can give the client the whole bapv. Anyway, back to the early days, i shoot weddings with my colleague, he uses mac/fcp, i use pc, so i used to import/rewrap at the same time from the card onto one of my external drives, then i used to just copy the mxf files onto my little usb portable hard drive and take it round his house, then he'd just plug it into the mac and copy/paste (or whatever mac people call it, sorry i'm not mac literate). My colleague has since bought an EX1, he then discovered fcp doesn't need mxf, but that's the way we did it in the early days. Nowadays i just give him the sdhc card and collect it a few days later. A hard drive formatted on a pc can be read on a mac, but not written to by a mac, so it's ok for taking footage off the hard drive, like we were doing. A hard drive formatted on a mac cannot be read or written to by a pc. Paul. __________________ Round 2 GH5,FZ2000

March 17th, 2009, 05:42 AM	#8
Buba Kastorski Trustee Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,414	BIG thank you to everyone! __________________ I love this place!

March 17th, 2009, 01:30 AM	#3
Barry J. Anwender Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 382	Buba, you have two choices. One approach is to give your client the entire BPAV folder(s) (using Clip Browser to make the copy) and then let them use the Sony XDCAM Transfer 2.9 to read the files on the Mac. Secondly, re-wrap the video from the BPAV folder(s) into .mov formats so the client can use the EX footage on their Mac video editing system. Cheers! Thanks Alister, you beat me to the reply :-)

March 17th, 2009, 04:32 AM	#7
Joachim Hoge Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 402	Thanks Paul. I was aware of the hard drive possibility as we have used them to transfer BPAV folders back and forth. I didn´t know that I could use the MFX wraps so I will try this out with my colleague.

March 17th, 2009, 01:22 PM	#9
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Format the hard drive using Fat32 and it can be read and written to by both Mac's and PC's. The only issue is the largest file you can have is 4Gb. However as the EX uses Fat32 so you won't get files over 4Gb from the camera. MXF for NLE can be used for both FCP and PC's but it's a slightly odd format that can't be stuck on either an EX SxS card or a XDCAM ProDisc for playback. I prefer to keep things in a standard format that can be played back by some form of hardware. Lets hope that one day we get a firmware update that allows us to record MXF's with our EX's. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com