How do you monitor your footage during post in Mac at DVinfo.net

Akbar Ukani · May 11th, 2009, 07:45 AM

I am looking at options to monitoring my XDCam EX1 1080p24 & 720p24 footage....The blackmagic intensity pro hdmi card will not work...

What other options are out there as far monitoring xdcam footage is concerned?....btw I am on a Mac Pro with FCP 6.0.4...Monitor on A TV or monitor on a HDMI Computer Monitor...so many options...so much confusion? Will an Apple 30" Cinema Display be sufficient enough?...Please give me some options.

James Huenergardt · May 11th, 2009, 08:12 AM

The Matrox MXO or MXO2 will work.

If you want to see all the pixels, you'll need a monitor like the Dell 24" or Apple 23" or larger.

Akbar Ukani · May 11th, 2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by James Huenergardt

The Matrox MXO or MXO2 will work.

If you want to see all the pixels, you'll need a monitor like the Dell 24" or Apple 23" or larger.

How are MXO AND MXO Mini different? Is one better than the other?

Craig Seeman · May 11th, 2009, 07:52 PM

Oversimplified but
MXO - Monitor Output only (DVI)
MXO2 Mini - HDMI in plus Monitor Out (HDMI)
MXO2 - HD-SDI in plus Monitor Out (HDMI)

Mike Chandler · May 12th, 2009, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Akbar Ukani

The blackmagic intensity pro hdmi card will not work...

Why doesn't the bm card work?

Will Griffith · May 12th, 2009, 11:02 AM

AJA IO HD -> HDLINK -> Apple 23" LCD

Jon Braeley · May 13th, 2009, 05:52 AM

The BM Intensity card is great if you want to monitor via Television - in FCP, the canvas window is displayed. It is not accurate for any color work but does give you a good idea for editing purposes - it cannot however be used as a second monitor like an Apple display.
Two 23 inch Apple displays is the best way to go or a single 30 inch.
The 23 inch display is fairly accurate and can be calibrated with reasonable results - it's one of the best that is out there - Dell and HP also have good monitors, but I prefer the Apple. The Eizo displays are very comparable to the Apple and models such as EIZO / ColorEdge CG242W claim to be good for video post-production.
What type of Mac pro? The new ones come with a DVI connector for older 23 or 30 inch displays and a new mini-dv display connector for the new Apple displays (which are not really available yet - the 24 inch is for laptops).
For myself with a new 8-core Mac Pro, I am waiting for the new displays from Apple. I run the 23 inch at the moment.

Mike Chandler · May 13th, 2009, 07:02 AM

That's what I'd hoped--I'm using the dvi outputs from the mac pro for 2 lcd's and the bm card for a Sony NTSC monitor and Vizio HD tv, but hadn't hooked the Vizio up yet.

Mitchell Lewis · May 13th, 2009, 08:03 AM

It's not cheap, but we use an AJA Io HD and a JVC DT-V24L3DU 24-inch monitor. The signal flow is Firewire 800 output > AJA Io HD Firewire 800 input > AJA Io HD HD-SDI out > JVC DT-V24L3DU HD-SDI input.

I can edit in Final Cut Pro natively in 1080 30p XDCAM EX and monitor the signal in 1080 30p (actually 29.97 or 30). Or we can have the AJA Io HD transcode the HD signal into SD and view SD on the monitor live. (this is a nice feature)

We're very happy with it. Although I would look at the new AJA Ki-Pro and see if could be used instead of the Io HD.

Thomas Diehl · May 14th, 2009, 04:55 AM

When I try monitoring xdcam ex 720p50 footage with my new mbp17/2.93/fcp6.05/fast fw800-drive - either using "digital cinema desktop preview" (apple f12) or matrox mxo i dont have smooth playback. every pan shutters and stutters. Why? Is it because the apple cinema 23 display is 60hz? (and i live in a 50 hz -country, using 50p)?

Van Styles · May 16th, 2009, 06:44 PM

I have the bm intensity card and I have viewed 1080 30p footage on it from final cut.It doesn't have it as a option as a playback but if you play your 1080 30p footage from final cut it will play through to a monitor.
A good option I have found is inexpensive is a 24 inch dell monitor with a hdmi port on it. Only $300.00 and works good as a external monitor as well as a computer monitor.

Ola Christoffersson · May 17th, 2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Diehl

When I try monitoring xdcam ex 720p50 footage with my new mbp17/2.93/fcp6.05/fast fw800-drive - either using "digital cinema desktop preview" (apple f12) or matrox mxo i dont have smooth playback. every pan shutters and stutters. Why? Is it because the apple cinema 23 display is 60hz? (and i live in a 50 hz -country, using 50p)?

Yes. The fact that almost no (is there one?) computer displays can show 50 Hz is really a problem for us outside of the U S of A.

Olof Ekbergh · May 18th, 2009, 10:25 AM

The bottom line is you really need a grading quality monitor (like, JVC DT-V24L3DU 24-inch monitor mentioned above) and an SDI or component output card or external interface.

May 11th, 2009, 07:45 AM	#1
Akbar Ukani Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Posts: 69	How do you monitor your footage during post in Mac I am looking at options to monitoring my XDCam EX1 1080p24 & 720p24 footage....The blackmagic intensity pro hdmi card will not work... What other options are out there as far monitoring xdcam footage is concerned?....btw I am on a Mac Pro with FCP 6.0.4...Monitor on A TV or monitor on a HDMI Computer Monitor...so many options...so much confusion? Will an Apple 30" Cinema Display be sufficient enough?...Please give me some options.

May 11th, 2009, 08:12 AM	#2
James Huenergardt Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chehalis, WA Posts: 513	The Matrox MXO or MXO2 will work. If you want to see all the pixels, you'll need a monitor like the Dell 24" or Apple 23" or larger. __________________ Reel Inspirations - www.reelinspirations.com Commercials, Dramas, Image Pieces, Documentaries, Motion Graphics

May 12th, 2009, 11:02 AM	#6
Will Griffith Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Tennessee Posts: 164	AJA IO HD -> HDLINK -> Apple 23" LCD AJA IO HD -> HDLINK -> Apple 23" LCD

May 13th, 2009, 07:02 AM	#8
Mike Chandler Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Moab, UT Posts: 264	That's what I'd hoped--I'm using the dvi outputs from the mac pro for 2 lcd's and the bm card for a Sony NTSC monitor and Vizio HD tv, but hadn't hooked the Vizio up yet. __________________ www.packcreekproductions.com EX3, Mac Pro, FCP

May 13th, 2009, 08:03 AM	#9
Mitchell Lewis Trustee Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 1,124	It's not cheap, but we use an AJA Io HD and a JVC DT-V24L3DU 24-inch monitor. The signal flow is Firewire 800 output > AJA Io HD Firewire 800 input > AJA Io HD HD-SDI out > JVC DT-V24L3DU HD-SDI input. I can edit in Final Cut Pro natively in 1080 30p XDCAM EX and monitor the signal in 1080 30p (actually 29.97 or 30). Or we can have the AJA Io HD transcode the HD signal into SD and view SD on the monitor live. (this is a nice feature) We're very happy with it. Although I would look at the new AJA Ki-Pro and see if could be used instead of the Io HD. __________________ Sony EX3, Canon 5D MkII, Chrosziel Matte Box, Sachtler tripod, Steadicam Flyer, Mac Pro, Apple/Adobe software - 20 years as a local videographer/editor

May 11th, 2009, 07:52 PM	#4
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	Oversimplified but MXO - Monitor Output only (DVI) MXO2 Mini - HDMI in plus Monitor Out (HDMI) MXO2 - HD-SDI in plus Monitor Out (HDMI)

May 13th, 2009, 05:52 AM	#7
Jon Braeley Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 528	The BM Intensity card is great if you want to monitor via Television - in FCP, the canvas window is displayed. It is not accurate for any color work but does give you a good idea for editing purposes - it cannot however be used as a second monitor like an Apple display. Two 23 inch Apple displays is the best way to go or a single 30 inch. The 23 inch display is fairly accurate and can be calibrated with reasonable results - it's one of the best that is out there - Dell and HP also have good monitors, but I prefer the Apple. The Eizo displays are very comparable to the Apple and models such as EIZO / ColorEdge CG242W claim to be good for video post-production. What type of Mac pro? The new ones come with a DVI connector for older 23 or 30 inch displays and a new mini-dv display connector for the new Apple displays (which are not really available yet - the 24 inch is for laptops). For myself with a new 8-core Mac Pro, I am waiting for the new displays from Apple. I run the 23 inch at the moment.

May 14th, 2009, 04:55 AM	#10
Thomas Diehl Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 38	When I try monitoring xdcam ex 720p50 footage with my new mbp17/2.93/fcp6.05/fast fw800-drive - either using "digital cinema desktop preview" (apple f12) or matrox mxo i dont have smooth playback. every pan shutters and stutters. Why? Is it because the apple cinema 23 display is 60hz? (and i live in a 50 hz -country, using 50p)?

May 16th, 2009, 06:44 PM	#11
Van Styles New Boot Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Los Angeles,Ca Posts: 15	I have the bm intensity card and I have viewed 1080 30p footage on it from final cut.It doesn't have it as a option as a playback but if you play your 1080 30p footage from final cut it will play through to a monitor. A good option I have found is inexpensive is a 24 inch dell monitor with a hdmi port on it. Only $300.00 and works good as a external monitor as well as a computer monitor.

May 18th, 2009, 10:25 AM	#13
Olof Ekbergh Sponsor: Westside AV Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mount Washington Valley, NH, USA Posts: 1,365	The bottom line is you really need a grading quality monitor (like, JVC DT-V24L3DU 24-inch monitor mentioned above) and an SDI or component output card or external interface.