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Old June 3rd, 2009, 05:28 PM   #1
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need help: Ex and shooting PAL

I just had a call from a client in NYC and he is a producer for German TV (Pro Seiben)....and his questions to me was " can you shoot PAL on your Ex3"....and I told him "Ya-vol" yes....

But I want to shoot on the SDHC cards, so he can keep them and forward them on to Germany...so the question is:

Can the EX3 output PAL to the SDHC card? and can I play them back on my Sony Vaio laptop using clip browser 2.5, even if its a NTSC powered laptop?

Please help....

thanks.....
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 06:34 PM   #2
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I don't have EX3. But I just checked the manual - set the video format to PAL.
NTSC should be 60i, 30P, 24P 60P and PAL should be 50i, 25P, 50P.
However you will need to ask them what format do they want before you shoot.
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 06:47 PM   #3
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the format is XDCAM PAL.....I want to know if the SDHC card will record that.
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 06:55 PM   #4
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I think we have a few score PAL SDHC users.
The makers of MxR are in Australia after all (PAL country).

CPU shouldn't make a difference. Just make sure to setup your NLE for PAL.
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 07:16 PM   #5
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the format is XDCAM PAL.....I want to know if the SDHC card will record that.
YES.

The data rate is the same for PAL or NTSC.
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 07:26 PM   #6
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the format is XDCAM PAL.....I want to know if the SDHC card will record that.
Video Format: 1920x1080/50i or ??? XDCAM PAL is just a general term.
You should try your camera before go out for shooting :-)
As Bob posted, It will record on SDHC card - I was recording PAL on a previous NTSC recorded (and I can watch both on the viewfinder (on my EX1).
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 08:41 PM   #7
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Video Format: 1920x1080/50i or ??? XDCAM PAL is just a general term.
You should try your camera before go out for shooting :-)
As Bob posted, It will record on SDHC card - I was recording PAL on a previous NTSC recorded (and I can watch both on the viewfinder (on my EX1).
I know what PAL is and the settings...as I am a little lost on all of your post.
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 09:25 PM   #8
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Although you can set the camera's scanning rate to PAL or NTSC areas, the camera does not shoot in standard definition. You could, however, take a live uncompressed SDSDI feed from the camera to an SDSDI recorder such as Convergent Designs upcoming nanoflash. I'm not sure that SDSDI will be available in the initial deliveries though.

You DO NOT, I repeat, you do not want to take a composite or s-video output from the EX3 as the quality is RUBBISH! It is only good for very basic monitoring. I have tried using them.

The EX3 will record in HD only.

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Old June 3rd, 2009, 09:32 PM   #9
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Although you can set the camera's scanning rate to PAL or NTSC areas, the camera does not shoot in standard definition. You could, however, take a live uncompressed SDSDI feed from the camera to an SDSDI recorder such as Convergent Designs upcoming nanoflash. I'm not sure that SDSDI will be available in the initial deliveries though.

You DO NOT, I repeat, you do not want to take a composite or s-video output from the EX3 as the quality is RUBBISH! It is only good for very basic monitoring. I have tried using them.

The EX3 will record in HD only.

Hope this helps
I know it records in HD only...that is what the client wants....
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 11:46 PM   #10
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Am I missing something here or is my question misleading...some of the post "are way off" and don't make sense ....please re -read my first post, please.
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Old June 4th, 2009, 12:09 AM   #11
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<Can the EX3 output PAL to the SDHC card? and can I play them back on my Sony Vaio laptop using clip browser 2.5, even if its a NTSC powered laptop?>
The card will be whatever format Pal or NTSC you use.
No such thing as an NTSC powered laptop.
pal or NTSC or secan refer to TV set standards only.
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Old June 4th, 2009, 02:01 AM   #12
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clarification

The EX-3 doesn't record PAL, it only records in HD, you should clarify what the prospective client format-wise. 25/50 frame per second HD frame rates isn't the same as PAL even though those terms are loosely interchanged.

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Old June 4th, 2009, 02:39 AM   #13
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What an irritable selection of reply's:

Yes your EX3 will record to the SDHC card in any selectable camera format.

Set your camera to 1080 50i HQ mode and shoot.

Yes, the files will play on any Laptop, in any country, using Sony Clip Browser.

Send the SDHC cards to Germany, I'm sure they will be very happy.

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Old June 4th, 2009, 03:24 AM   #14
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Some of the replies might be irritable but then again what is a "NTSC powered laptop"?

Regardless, there's an issue not covered in the original question.

Shooting any of the "PAL" frame rates in an NTSC country requires care to avoid flicker from lighting. I think the flicker reduction settings in the EXs get around this but it's much more of a concern than recording to SDHC cards.
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I live in The Netherlands and I shoot for German TV-stations. 1080i HQ Pal ofcourse. I make copies and sent the SxS cards with the original footage to them and get them returned. Works great! No problems at all.
Succes William.
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