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Steve Kalle · September 12th, 2009, 06:07 PM

I know about the sticky thread but I can't seem to find settings for what I need AND want. But, my head is spinning with all these available settings for PP's.

I have an outdoor event to shoot this Tuesday which will start under evening daylight and continue after sundown(its a very large event so it should be well lit). The destination will be web and broadcast so I would prefer to keep it within broadcast limits. I also would like to maximize dynamic range and keep highlights within range (I read that Cine Gamma helps "compress" highlights) under sunlight.

For the evening, I would like to keep the noise down and still use Cine Gamma, while keeping blacks safe.

I know of Premiere Pro's Broadcast Effect/Filter but I have not used it so I don't know whether CineGamma 1, 3 or 4 would be better and then apply the Broadcast filter or just use CineGamma 2 and not worry(as much).

COLOR: For now, I prefer a more natural look that I can grade if needed.

I have seen many PP's but most people don't state the benefits. I just got my EX1 2 days ago so I haven't had much time to play around with it. Also, I won't be getting my Doug Jensen DVD til Monday afternoon/evening so I am struggling to find user guides online.

Any help is GREATLY appreciated!

Boyd Ostroff · September 12th, 2009, 06:56 PM

Personally I have found it very useful to just connect the EX1 to my 46" Sony Bravia and observe the changes as I play with the settings. After awhile you start to get the idea of what each parameter does. I also sometimes bring along a 15" color monitor to play with settings in the field, but it can be hard to observe some of the subtle effects in bright daylight on a screen with less than 1920x1080 resolution.

Alister Chapman · September 13th, 2009, 02:25 AM

Don't know if you have seen these Steve:

YouTube - XDCAM EX Gamma Curves and Knee, what they do and which ones to use.

YouTube - XDCAM EX Color Matrix Setup and How To instructional video

Robert Young · September 14th, 2009, 01:40 AM

Alister
These are excellent presentations of material that has been rather obscure to me for more than a year.
Very coherent for non techies like myself.
Thank you for taking the time to do this. I certainly would be grateful to see more of these sort of tutorials.
Brilliant!

Alister Chapman · September 14th, 2009, 04:21 AM

No problem. There will be more!

September 12th, 2009, 06:07 PM	#1
Steve Kalle Trustee Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,554	Picture Profile Help for a new EX1 Owner I know about the sticky thread but I can't seem to find settings for what I need AND want. But, my head is spinning with all these available settings for PP's. I have an outdoor event to shoot this Tuesday which will start under evening daylight and continue after sundown(its a very large event so it should be well lit). The destination will be web and broadcast so I would prefer to keep it within broadcast limits. I also would like to maximize dynamic range and keep highlights within range (I read that Cine Gamma helps "compress" highlights) under sunlight. For the evening, I would like to keep the noise down and still use Cine Gamma, while keeping blacks safe. I know of Premiere Pro's Broadcast Effect/Filter but I have not used it so I don't know whether CineGamma 1, 3 or 4 would be better and then apply the Broadcast filter or just use CineGamma 2 and not worry(as much). COLOR: For now, I prefer a more natural look that I can grade if needed. I have seen many PP's but most people don't state the benefits. I just got my EX1 2 days ago so I haven't had much time to play around with it. Also, I won't be getting my Doug Jensen DVD til Monday afternoon/evening so I am struggling to find user guides online. Any help is GREATLY appreciated!

September 13th, 2009, 02:25 AM	#3
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Don't know if you have seen these Steve: YouTube - XDCAM EX Gamma Curves and Knee, what they do and which ones to use. YouTube - XDCAM EX Color Matrix Setup and How To instructional video __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

September 14th, 2009, 01:40 AM	#4
Robert Young Trustee Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Coronado Island Posts: 1,472	Alister These are excellent presentations of material that has been rather obscure to me for more than a year. Very coherent for non techies like myself. Thank you for taking the time to do this. I certainly would be grateful to see more of these sort of tutorials. Brilliant! __________________ Bob

September 14th, 2009, 04:21 AM	#5
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	No problem. There will be more! __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

September 12th, 2009, 06:56 PM	#2
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	Personally I have found it very useful to just connect the EX1 to my 46" Sony Bravia and observe the changes as I play with the settings. After awhile you start to get the idea of what each parameter does. I also sometimes bring along a 15" color monitor to play with settings in the field, but it can be hard to observe some of the subtle effects in bright daylight on a screen with less than 1920x1080 resolution.