EX3 Recording Solutions

Darren Ruddock · September 17th, 2009, 08:57 AM

Hi,

I think I have mentioned before that I love the idea of the Nano Flash. However, I would imagine, it only really comes into play for you lucky chaps who are delivering for broadcast to a network or selling stock footage?

Most stuff we are doing at the moment is for either web video or to SD DVD. I thought about the Nano because you can down-convert on the fly using the IMX codec but, from what I know, ( I don't know much!) IMX is only for professional broadcast delivery and not DVD's. Am I right?

I suppose when Blu-Ray has more of a hold the Nano Flash will be more worth it.

Alister Chapman · September 17th, 2009, 01:03 PM

In the latest firmware update CD added the ability to record direct to .mpg files at SD DVD and HD BluRay ready bitrates. The files can be used directly in most DVD authoring packages.

IMX files are a type of Mpeg2 file. At 50Mb/s it is 4:2:2 and very high quality. This would be very suitable as a shooting format for those wanting to produce high quality DVD's.

Darren Ruddock · September 17th, 2009, 01:58 PM

Alister,

You may be swaying me towards parting with some cash!!! If that can up the quality of SD DVD (no artifacts on moving leaves, grass and improved motion) then I may be very tempted!!

Doug Jensen · September 17th, 2009, 02:08 PM

I'd buy one in a second if it could record an HDMI signal that has HDCP (copy protection). I have an HDMI output signal that I regulalry need to record from a particular piece of equipment and, although I created the content myself, the device itself adds HDCP to all output -- thus making it impossible for me to record the signal with any HD recorder (or signal converter) that I can find. It seems that once HDCP has been added to a signal, nobody is willing to build a device that can record it. If the NanoFlash could overcome that hurdle, I'd buy one immediately.

Dan Keaton · September 17th, 2009, 05:56 PM

Dear Doug,

As much as we would like to, the law is very clear about this.

We just can't do it.

I know it is unlikely, but is there a menu or switch that can be used to turn off the "Broadcast Bit" in your equipment.

If you let me know the manufacturer, and model number, of the equipment, I will be happy to research to see what I can find. You can send me a private email if you wish.

Doug Jensen · September 18th, 2009, 04:44 AM

Dan,

Thank you for the offer to take a closer look at my situation. I will PM you later this morning with the details.

I hope you don't think I was singling out the NanoFlash for not being able to record HDCP encoded signals. I know it is an industry-wide issue.

Thanks.

Darren Ruddock · September 18th, 2009, 08:52 AM

Going back to the IMX files...has anyone edited with them in FCP? Just wondered if there are any major hurdles?

Alister Chapman · September 18th, 2009, 09:54 AM

No problem with IMX provided you have version 6.0.4 of FCP or higher. It may work with earlier versions but I'm not sure. IMX is part of the Sony XDCAM family. It was introduced as a replacement/upgrade of the Betacam SX cameras about 7 or 8 years ago, so it's a very mature format. The first generation SD XDCAM PDW-530P used IMX as well and it's now available as an option on the PDW-700 and standard on the PDW-F800. Several European broadcasters use IMX as their format of choice for high quality SD work. At 50Mb/s it's better than Digibeta.

Darren Ruddock · September 18th, 2009, 12:21 PM

I want it!!!

Ramji Meena · September 19th, 2009, 12:23 AM

hi
I have updated the firmware 1.0.64 to my NanoFlashXDR,

There is one more download available on CD website.It is file convertor 1.2 .What is the use and what is it?

I have ordered two swit batteries and charger.They also suply 4pin xlr cable with d trap.Is it going to work ?I mean is it same as 4 pin hirose connector cable? please help me somebody.

Dan Keaton · September 19th, 2009, 07:54 AM

Dear Ramji,

If you download the File Converter, there is documenation included in the download.

This is a Mac based program.

The File Converter serves multiple purposes.

To name a few:

1. Converts MOV to MXF.

2. Copy files from one folder to another or CompactFlash card.
This copies are specially made so that the destination files are unfragmented files on the Mac.

3. Allows large files, up to 30 GB, such as a project rendered to our specifications in Final Cut Pro, to be copied back to a CompactFlash card so it can be played on a Flash XDR or nanoFlash.

Paul Cronin · September 19th, 2009, 07:57 AM

And the software works very well. Thanks Dan. Just had 12 more cards arrive the Nano is working hard.

Dan Keaton · September 19th, 2009, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramji Meena

hi

I have ordered two swit batteries and charger.They also supply 4pin xlr cable with d trap.Is it going to work ?I mean is it same as 4 pin hirose connector cable? please help me somebody.

Dear Ramji,

The Swit batteries have Female D-Tap power outlets.

You need our Male D-Tap to 4-Pin Female Power Cable to power the nanoFlash.

As far as I know, we do not supply a D-Tap to 4-Pin XLR cable.

We make a Flash XDR and a nanoFlash.

Since you mentioned "nanoFlashXDR", I do not know if you have a Flash XDR or a nanoFlash.

The Power Input connector for the nanoFlash is a 4-Pin Male Hirose, wired Pin-1 = Positive, Pin-4 = Negative.
Thus a power cable must have a 4-Pin Female Hirose connector.

The Power Input connector for the Flash XDR is a 4-Pin Male XLR, wired Pin-1 = Ground, Pin-4 = Positive.
Thus a power cable must have a 4-Pin Female XLR Connector.

A D-Tap to 4-Pin XLR cable, wired so that Pin-1 = Ground, Pin-4 = Positive could be used to power the Flash XDR, but has no application for the nanoFlash.

A 4-Pin XLR cable is not the same as a 4-Pin Hirose cable.

Dan Keaton · September 19th, 2009, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Cronin

And the software works very well. Thanks Dan. Just had 12 more cards arrive the Nano is working hard.

Thanks Paul!

Ramji Meena · September 19th, 2009, 10:14 PM

Thank you Dan,
I have a nanoflash.

1.Please also tell me how I can i copy the file convertor?Should I copy it to my Mac book pro which has FCP?

The Power Input connector for the nanoFlash is a 4-Pin Male Hirose, wired Pin-1 = Positive, Pin-4 = Negative.Thus a power cable must have a 4-Pin Female Hirose connector. ..... A 4-Pin XLR cable is not the same as a 4-Pin Hirose cable.

2.You will not believe Dan this 4pin hirose cable is not available in India and if import it the shipping is more than the cost of the cable .It really frustating.

September 17th, 2009, 01:03 PM	#17
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	In the latest firmware update CD added the ability to record direct to .mpg files at SD DVD and HD BluRay ready bitrates. The files can be used directly in most DVD authoring packages. IMX files are a type of Mpeg2 file. At 50Mb/s it is 4:2:2 and very high quality. This would be very suitable as a shooting format for those wanting to produce high quality DVD's. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

September 17th, 2009, 02:08 PM	#19
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,415	I'd buy one in a second if it could record an HDMI signal that has HDCP (copy protection). I have an HDMI output signal that I regulalry need to record from a particular piece of equipment and, although I created the content myself, the device itself adds HDCP to all output -- thus making it impossible for me to record the signal with any HD recorder (or signal converter) that I can find. It seems that once HDCP has been added to a signal, nobody is willing to build a device that can record it. If the NanoFlash could overcome that hurdle, I'd buy one immediately. __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools

September 17th, 2009, 05:56 PM	#20
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Doug, As much as we would like to, the law is very clear about this. We just can't do it. I know it is unlikely, but is there a menu or switch that can be used to turn off the "Broadcast Bit" in your equipment. If you let me know the manufacturer, and model number, of the equipment, I will be happy to research to see what I can find. You can send me a private email if you wish. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

September 18th, 2009, 04:44 AM	#21
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,415	Dan, Thank you for the offer to take a closer look at my situation. I will PM you later this morning with the details. I hope you don't think I was singling out the NanoFlash for not being able to record HDCP encoded signals. I know it is an industry-wide issue. Thanks. __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools

September 18th, 2009, 09:54 AM	#23
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	No problem with IMX provided you have version 6.0.4 of FCP or higher. It may work with earlier versions but I'm not sure. IMX is part of the Sony XDCAM family. It was introduced as a replacement/upgrade of the Betacam SX cameras about 7 or 8 years ago, so it's a very mature format. The first generation SD XDCAM PDW-530P used IMX as well and it's now available as an option on the PDW-700 and standard on the PDW-F800. Several European broadcasters use IMX as their format of choice for high quality SD work. At 50Mb/s it's better than Digibeta. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

September 17th, 2009, 08:57 AM	#16
Darren Ruddock Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southend, UK Posts: 165	Hi, I think I have mentioned before that I love the idea of the Nano Flash. However, I would imagine, it only really comes into play for you lucky chaps who are delivering for broadcast to a network or selling stock footage? Most stuff we are doing at the moment is for either web video or to SD DVD. I thought about the Nano because you can down-convert on the fly using the IMX codec but, from what I know, ( I don't know much!) IMX is only for professional broadcast delivery and not DVD's. Am I right? I suppose when Blu-Ray has more of a hold the Nano Flash will be more worth it.

September 17th, 2009, 01:58 PM	#18
Darren Ruddock Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southend, UK Posts: 165	Alister, You may be swaying me towards parting with some cash!!! If that can up the quality of SD DVD (no artifacts on moving leaves, grass and improved motion) then I may be very tempted!!

September 18th, 2009, 08:52 AM	#22
Darren Ruddock Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southend, UK Posts: 165	Going back to the IMX files...has anyone edited with them in FCP? Just wondered if there are any major hurdles?

September 18th, 2009, 12:21 PM	#24
Darren Ruddock Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southend, UK Posts: 165	I want it!!!

September 19th, 2009, 12:23 AM	#25
Ramji Meena Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: MUMBAI INDIA Posts: 109	What is file convertor ? hi I have updated the firmware 1.0.64 to my NanoFlashXDR, There is one more download available on CD website.It is file convertor 1.2 .What is the use and what is it? I have ordered two swit batteries and charger.They also suply 4pin xlr cable with d trap.Is it going to work ?I mean is it same as 4 pin hirose connector cable? please help me somebody.

September 19th, 2009, 07:54 AM	#26
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Ramji, If you download the File Converter, there is documenation included in the download. This is a Mac based program. The File Converter serves multiple purposes. To name a few: 1. Converts MOV to MXF. 2. Copy files from one folder to another or CompactFlash card. This copies are specially made so that the destination files are unfragmented files on the Mac. 3. Allows large files, up to 30 GB, such as a project rendered to our specifications in Final Cut Pro, to be copied back to a CompactFlash card so it can be played on a Flash XDR or nanoFlash. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

September 19th, 2009, 07:57 AM	#27
Paul Cronin Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4,048	And the software works very well. Thanks Dan. Just had 12 more cards arrive the Nano is working hard. __________________ Paul Cronin www.paulcroninstudios.com

September 19th, 2009, 10:14 PM	#30
Ramji Meena Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: MUMBAI INDIA Posts: 109	Thank you Dan, I have a nanoflash. 1.Please also tell me how I can i copy the file convertor?Should I copy it to my Mac book pro which has FCP? The Power Input connector for the nanoFlash is a 4-Pin Male Hirose, wired Pin-1 = Positive, Pin-4 = Negative.Thus a power cable must have a 4-Pin Female Hirose connector. ..... A 4-Pin XLR cable is not the same as a 4-Pin Hirose cable. 2.You will not believe Dan this 4pin hirose cable is not available in India and if import it the shipping is more than the cost of the cable .It really frustating.