EX1 not in stock at DVinfo.net

Craig Terott · September 24th, 2009, 07:53 PM

Just curious if anyone knows the logic behind B&H not stocking the EX1.

Craig Seeman · September 25th, 2009, 09:24 AM

Is that happening anywhere else? It actually says "Accepting orders"
Could be they can't take shipments because of the string of Jewish Holidays if the stock issue is specific to them.
Could be a revised model in the works otherwise but the speculation is pointless unless you see this throughout the supply chain.
AbelCine seems to have it in stock.

Craig Seeman · September 25th, 2009, 11:09 AM

Last thoughts on this. If Sony had a revised model we would have heard reports from IBC and DV Expo at this point. It's probably B&H not taking shipments due to the Jewish holidays.

Craig Terott · September 25th, 2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig Seeman

Last thoughts on this. If Sony had a revised model we would have heard reports from IBC and DV Expo at this point. It's probably B&H not taking shipments due to the Jewish holidays.

But interestingly, the EX3 is in stock.

Craig Seeman · September 25th, 2009, 03:52 PM

Not at all odd since one camera sold out and the other hasn't. They probably sell more EX1s than EX3s at B&H and there are so many Jewish holidays back to back at this time of year. I live not too far from B&H and their warehouse is even closer. They will not move things from the warehouse to the store on the holidays. They will even list things as in stock because they are in the warehouse yet are not actually available in the store.

Since AbelCine and B&H are not too far apart and Abel has them in stock, the channel isn't "dry." B&H probably has them sitting on the loading dock, hence "accepting orders," otherwise it would be "out of stock."

Craig Terott · September 25th, 2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig Seeman

Not at all odd since one camera sold out and the other hasn't. They probably sell more EX1s than EX3s at B&H and there are so many Jewish holidays back to back at this time of year. I live not too far from B&H and their warehouse is even closer. They will not move things from the warehouse to the store on the holidays. They will even list things as in stock because they are in the warehouse yet are not actually available in the store.

Since AbelCine and B&H are not too far apart and Abel has them in stock, the channel isn't "dry." B&H probably has them sitting on the loading dock, hence "accepting orders," otherwise it would be "out of stock."

Makes sense. The only reason I bring it up is because that 7-10 lead-time is very scary to me. In fact, 7-10 days is just like not having it in stock for me. If one of my cams ever goes down, chances are good I'll need a replacement in one day.

I had never even heard of that AbelCine until today. I feel dumb. Thanks Craig. Nice to know they are there if I'm in a jam, and it looks like similar pricing. You learn something every day I guess.

Craig Seeman · September 25th, 2009, 04:18 PM

There's another Sony authorized dealer (also authorized Sony service center) in NYC that's not a DVInfo sponsor that will actually give you a loaner EX1 if your camera has to go in for repair. I can't mention the name here although they are a "mom & pop" business that I like to support. That kind of loaner promise (it costs NOTHING EXTRA) is something the big stores wouldn't even consider offering.

Andy Shipsides · September 25th, 2009, 08:32 PM

Hey Craig

I'm sorry to hear that you've never heard of us. AbelCineTech is a unique place in NYC that caters exclusively to the professional video / film crowd. I'd hope that you would come to us not only in a pinch, but also when you want to speak to a group of people that pride themselves at being experts in this field. Please check out our website and blog at Abel Cine Tech and note that we sell the EX for the same price as anyone. Sony has a program price, so no one can sell it for lower than the listed price.

Best,

Andy

Stephen Mick · September 25th, 2009, 08:39 PM

I've dealt with Abel before, and Andy and the crew are top-notch. First rate service, competitive pricing and years of experience. No worries if you order from Abel.

--SM

Kevin Lee Yuen · September 25th, 2009, 08:47 PM

They had 6 in stock last week...sold out in 4 days. I was going to buy one but didn't get the funds in time.

Brian Mills · September 25th, 2009, 09:04 PM

I too bought my EX from Abel Cine - great store and very helpful!

Craig Seeman · September 25th, 2009, 10:41 PM

From the "other" Craig. While I didn't get my EX from Abel, I did buy a whole bunch of ancillary gear there. Great place, great service.

Boyd Ostroff · September 26th, 2009, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig Terott

Just curious if anyone knows the logic behind B&H not stocking the EX1.

If you check B&H's website regularly you will see the EX1 drops in and out of stock regularly. There's another thread I started on this somewhere when I was shopping myself. It's one of B&H's top selling items and they sell out regularly.

The language about special order and 7-10 days wait is just boilerplate which seems to appear when any item is out of stock. I went up to to B&H in person, and before I left their site showed the EX-1 in stock. When I arrived a couple hours later, they were sold out. So I placed an order and it was shipped out within about a week.

Craig Terott · September 27th, 2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy Shipsides

Hey Craig

I'm sorry to hear that you've never heard of us. AbelCineTech is a unique place in NYC that caters exclusively to the professional video / film crowd. I'd hope that you would come to us not only in a pinch, but also when you want to speak to a group of people that pride themselves at being experts in this field. Please check out our website and blog at Abel Cine Tech and note that we sell the EX for the same price as anyone. Sony has a program price, so no one can sell it for lower than the listed price.

Best,

Andy

Very positive feedback. I bookmarked your site.

Craig Terott · September 27th, 2009, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Boyd Ostroff

If you check B&H's website regularly you will see the EX1 drops in and out of stock regularly. There's another thread I started on this somewhere when I was shopping myself. It's one of B&H's top selling items and they sell out regularly.

The language about special order and 7-10 days wait is just boilerplate which seems to appear when any item is out of stock. I went up to to B&H in person, and before I left their site showed the EX-1 in stock. When I arrived a couple hours later, they were sold out. So I placed an order and it was shipped out within about a week.

At the risk of sounding negative, I still have to wonder why a photo/video Goliath fails to keep enough EX1s in stock. Number one rule of inventory management: The more of something you sell, the more of it you keep in stock.

September 24th, 2009, 07:53 PM	#1
Craig Terott Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 691	EX1 not in stock Just curious if anyone knows the logic behind B&H not stocking the EX1.

September 25th, 2009, 08:32 PM	#8
Andy Shipsides Sponsor: Abel CineTech Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New York, NY Posts: 361	Hey Craig I'm sorry to hear that you've never heard of us. AbelCineTech is a unique place in NYC that caters exclusively to the professional video / film crowd. I'd hope that you would come to us not only in a pinch, but also when you want to speak to a group of people that pride themselves at being experts in this field. Please check out our website and blog at Abel Cine Tech and note that we sell the EX for the same price as anyone. Sony has a program price, so no one can sell it for lower than the listed price. Best, Andy __________________ Andy Shipsides -Camera Technology Specialist AbelCineTech, New York - Visit our Blog - http://blog.abelcine.com

September 25th, 2009, 08:39 PM	#9
Stephen Mick Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 167	+1 for Abel I've dealt with Abel before, and Andy and the crew are top-notch. First rate service, competitive pricing and years of experience. No worries if you order from Abel. --SM

September 25th, 2009, 09:04 PM	#11
Brian Mills Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 126	I too bought my EX from Abel Cine - great store and very helpful! __________________ Brian Mills, Videographer/Editor www.gordovideo.com

September 25th, 2009, 09:24 AM	#2
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	Is that happening anywhere else? It actually says "Accepting orders" Could be they can't take shipments because of the string of Jewish Holidays if the stock issue is specific to them. Could be a revised model in the works otherwise but the speculation is pointless unless you see this throughout the supply chain. AbelCine seems to have it in stock.

September 25th, 2009, 11:09 AM	#3
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	Last thoughts on this. If Sony had a revised model we would have heard reports from IBC and DV Expo at this point. It's probably B&H not taking shipments due to the Jewish holidays.

September 25th, 2009, 03:52 PM	#5
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	Not at all odd since one camera sold out and the other hasn't. They probably sell more EX1s than EX3s at B&H and there are so many Jewish holidays back to back at this time of year. I live not too far from B&H and their warehouse is even closer. They will not move things from the warehouse to the store on the holidays. They will even list things as in stock because they are in the warehouse yet are not actually available in the store. Since AbelCine and B&H are not too far apart and Abel has them in stock, the channel isn't "dry." B&H probably has them sitting on the loading dock, hence "accepting orders," otherwise it would be "out of stock."

September 25th, 2009, 04:18 PM	#7
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	There's another Sony authorized dealer (also authorized Sony service center) in NYC that's not a DVInfo sponsor that will actually give you a loaner EX1 if your camera has to go in for repair. I can't mention the name here although they are a "mom & pop" business that I like to support. That kind of loaner promise (it costs NOTHING EXTRA) is something the big stores wouldn't even consider offering.

September 25th, 2009, 08:47 PM	#10
Kevin Lee Yuen New Boot Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Miramar, FL Posts: 7	They had 6 in stock last week...sold out in 4 days. I was going to buy one but didn't get the funds in time.

September 25th, 2009, 10:41 PM	#12
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	From the "other" Craig. While I didn't get my EX from Abel, I did buy a whole bunch of ancillary gear there. Great place, great service.