Ex1r or ex3 at DVinfo.net

Boris Barel · October 28th, 2010, 07:32 PM

Need a second camera, which one to get?
I prefer the ex3 because of the feel and better connectors,
but in terms of image and such which one is preferable?

Andy Shipsides · October 28th, 2010, 08:43 PM

Image wise they are exactly the same. If it is your second camera you may want the EX3 though, so you can lock timecode between the two for a two camera shoot.

Boris Barel · October 29th, 2010, 12:32 AM

Does the EX1R still have the IR issue?

Robert Young · October 29th, 2010, 12:35 AM

Supposedly less so, but still a little controversy about it.
Do a search on this forum and you'll find threads about it.

Andy Wilkinson · October 29th, 2010, 02:31 AM

Boris,

1. If you do a lot of outdoor shooting in the bright sunshine in your country for sure go for the EX3 - the viewfinder arrangement is excellent*.
2. If you do a lot of travel (especially airline travel) with your camera go for an EX1r - it really is a lot easier to get into the carry on bins.
3. If IR is a concern, consider the new Canon XFs, but be aware that in low light the EXs have the edge (in my view, from what I've seen).

* Note - Even if you go for the EX1r or XF you might want to consider something like this - it'll still no way be as good as the real EX3 system (in my view) but some swear they work well.

http://www.hoodmanusa.com/products.asp?dept=1065

There may be the odd snippet of information in my personal review of the EX3 which might help you too.

http://www.shootingimage.co.uk/Sony%...EX3Review.html

Hope this helps!

Boris Barel · October 29th, 2010, 05:08 AM

Thank you for your input, andy i enjoyed your review, good luck with your work.

Garrett Low · October 29th, 2010, 11:29 AM

Boris,

What is your first camera? If you already have an EX3 then I'd probably go for the EX1r.

I however prefer the ergonomics of the EX3 and have Olaf's shoulder mount system which really makes it great for off tripod shots. I agree with Andy that the viewfinder on the EX3 is very good and I've got an lcd monitor for when I'm on sticks or director view.

-Garrett

Boris Barel · November 3rd, 2010, 05:43 PM

Got the ex3 - nice, need to learn it.
One thing though is annoying - not possible to change white balance preset. e.g CC filter/button.
First small test.
YouTube - New camera test1

Doug Jensen · November 4th, 2010, 05:26 PM

You can change the WB preset value via the Picture Profile menus.

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Andy Shipsides Sponsor: Abel CineTech Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New York, NY Posts: 361	Image wise they are exactly the same. If it is your second camera you may want the EX3 though, so you can lock timecode between the two for a two camera shoot. __________________ Andy Shipsides -Camera Technology Specialist AbelCineTech, New York - Visit our Blog - http://blog.abelcine.com

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October 29th, 2010, 02:31 AM	#5
Andy Wilkinson Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 2,853	Boris, 1. If you do a lot of outdoor shooting in the bright sunshine in your country for sure go for the EX3 - the viewfinder arrangement is excellent. 2. If you do a lot of travel (especially airline travel) with your camera go for an EX1r - it really is a lot easier to get into the carry on bins. 3. If IR is a concern, consider the new Canon XFs, but be aware that in low light the EXs have the edge (in my view, from what I've seen). Note - Even if you go for the EX1r or XF you might want to consider something like this - it'll still no way be as good as the real EX3 system (in my view) but some swear they work well. http://www.hoodmanusa.com/products.asp?dept=1065 There may be the odd snippet of information in my personal review of the EX3 which might help you too. http://www.shootingimage.co.uk/Sony%...EX3Review.html Hope this helps! __________________ Andy K Wilkinson - https://www.shootingimage.co.uk Cambridge (UK) Corporate Video Production

October 29th, 2010, 05:08 AM	#6
Boris Barel Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Israel Posts: 45	Thank you for your input, andy i enjoyed your review, good luck with your work. __________________ www.newshound.biz

October 29th, 2010, 11:29 AM	#7
Garrett Low Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 1,774	Boris, What is your first camera? If you already have an EX3 then I'd probably go for the EX1r. I however prefer the ergonomics of the EX3 and have Olaf's shoulder mount system which really makes it great for off tripod shots. I agree with Andy that the viewfinder on the EX3 is very good and I've got an lcd monitor for when I'm on sticks or director view. -Garrett __________________ Garrett Low www.GLowMediaProductions.com

November 3rd, 2010, 05:43 PM	#8
Boris Barel Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Israel Posts: 45	Got the ex3 - nice, need to learn it. One thing though is annoying - not possible to change white balance preset. e.g CC filter/button. First small test. YouTube - New camera test1 __________________ www.newshound.biz

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Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,417	You can change the WB preset value via the Picture Profile menus. __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools