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Old December 13th, 2010, 09:39 AM   #1
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a small backpack for Ex1r

I initially was going for the Kata 106 which is awesome for you can put laptop etc etc

but I need a smaller backpack (for instance the Kata 103) that allows me to bring and protect just the camcorder and very few accessories, and still be very easy to use - I like the front zip on the Kata that allows you to take out the camcorder very quickly

I guess the challenge is that the smaller the backpack, usually the smaller the size of the camcorder you can put inside. but I still need it for an ex1r

any suggestions?
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Old December 13th, 2010, 04:07 PM   #2
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I have this backpack:

CineBags CB-25A Revolution Backpack CB-25A B&H Photo Video

Good quality, lots of pockets, and room for a 17" 'putter. Meets current airline size requirements.

But the camera goes in the back...

take a look.
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Old December 13th, 2010, 04:42 PM   #3
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I have this backpack:

CineBags CB-25A Revolution Backpack CB-25A B&H Photo Video

Good quality, lots of pockets, and room for a 17" 'putter. Meets current airline size requirements.

But the camera goes in the back...

take a look.

hi Kevin
I really like the design but am a bit put off by this review I found on DVINFO (see below)_
apparently there are some quality issues?



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I recently took the pack from New Zealand to Colorado and back via Australia for a quick doco shoot on the snow at Winter Park. I was carrying a basic EX3 kit with a Miller Solo tripod set up as well.

I have had a lot of experience with specialist snow camera backpacks from Burton and Dakine, and use a lot of other non snow based bags - such as Think Tank, Lowe Pro etc. I also have bought Cinebags products from them years ago when they first started up.

I had several issues with the CB-25.

The EX3 only fitted in the main compartment when the camera's padded base was removed.

All of the zips open easily, by themselves when the bag is being moved around. They also do not completely close - letting in moisture, and with the potential for accessories to fall out.

The straps on the front are made of a cheap material. They work themselves loose and are pretty much useless. No way for them to secure a tripod.

There is a hole in the very top of the bag for an ipod headphone cable. Not the most waterproof design. I ended up putting gaffer tape over it.

The harness is very bulky, and not that effective.

The base of the bag has a rain cover in it. But this base digs into my back when worn - the padded harness not being effective at all.

The garish colors really stand out in an airport, and not in a good way.

The massive 'CineBags' logos also scream out for attention. I ended up coloring mine in black.

The bag looks big, and is not the best for carrying through airports.

I hope my thoughts are useful to someone. On the whole, I would not recommend the bag.
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Old December 13th, 2010, 05:41 PM   #4
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Petrol PC300 Deca Shell Camera Backpack PC300 B&H Photo Video
replaces the PMCK-1N which I have been using with my HPX170 for about 2 years. Specs state it will fit the EX1.
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Old December 13th, 2010, 05:53 PM   #5
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Mine looks well made for the price. I see this version is "25A", where they use to sell the "25" that came in some weird colors. I guess time will tell.
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Old December 13th, 2010, 06:19 PM   #6
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... I need a smaller backpack (for instance the Kata 103) that allows me to bring and protect just the camcorder and very few accessories, and still be very easy to use - I like the front zip on the Kata that allows you to take out the camcorder very quickly.
Federico, I'm in the same boat. I have a Kata 103 from my last camera and need something larger for an EX1. I looked at all the bags I could find online. I wanted something that had the great shoulder strap and harness that puts the weight on the hips and could also store the camera "ready to go".

As mentioned, the PC300 has the right specs and design but is a little large (14.5) width-wise. I found two camera bags by Think Tank that "Might" work. I did not yet have the chance to drive to a local dealer and try them. These are the two that seem to be close according to dimensions but I wouldn't get one without trying it.

Glass Taxi Camera Shoulder Backpack - Think Tank

Streetwalker Pro? Backpack - Think Tank
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Old December 13th, 2010, 08:43 PM   #7
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G'day,

I can fit my EX1R into a Lowepro Flipside 400 AW backpack. The cover on the viewfinder has to be removed, as does any battery. There are plenty of pockets and removable/relocatable velcroed partitions in the camera compartment. The camera goes in the side that rests against your back, making it impossible for opportunist thieves to get at the gear while wearing the backpack.

The backpack is carry-on compliant for all airlines that I'm aware of. Having said that, I already had this backpack for my SLR gear and that's what it will continue to be used for. For the EX1R I have elected to go for the Lowepro Magnum 4000 AW shoulder bag. Still airline carry-on compliant, but just a bit roomier.

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Old December 14th, 2010, 05:28 AM   #8
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Mine looks well made for the price. I see this version is "25A", where they use to sell the "25" that came in some weird colors. I guess time will tell.
I think they now make a slightly larger model, which is the 25A, and comes in black and grey and the one with the weird green straps I think was the old model....( I THINK, as some website list the green strap one as the 25A too, confusingly)

would be interesting to understand if they made it also tougher and not only larger - anyone has compared the 25 with the 25A?

but they are all very similar - even the Cinebag 23 looks very similar
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Old December 14th, 2010, 06:07 AM   #9
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The backpack that I use for my EX1 is the Cinebags CB-22. They don't make that model anymore but there are several that are similar. My EX1 lives in that backpack and I don't keep it in any other case.

CineBags CB-22 HD LT Backpack (Gray and Black) CB-22 B&H Photo

I've had it for more than 3 years and I would definitely buy it again. It has served me well and met my needs perfectly. The only thing I would do differently is the color. I think they have a black model these days and I would have preferred black. It is very well built and still looks brand new after three years. I can also carry 3 batteries, all my SxS cards, a telephoto converter, the battery charger, a zoom controller, and a computer in the bag at the same time.
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Old December 14th, 2010, 11:46 AM   #10
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Hi Federico,
I have bought the CineBags_CB_25A, like Kevin. Very good bag - no need to worry. For this price, take it. I travelled with this bag and my EX1R + microphones, LitePanel MicroPro, batteries etc. and my 17' MacBook Pro for 4 months all around the world for a big shoot.
Never a problem with any airline - fits exactly into their requirements (maybe too heavy, what I carried around). In rainy conditions I used the provided raincover.
I can highly recommend it - and believe me, I used it in the last months in very tough conditions in almost all climate zones of the planet - rain, dust, heat - no problem. There are some small quality issues (the inside of the top bag - some kind of aluminium stuff - fell apart - but that did not do any harm)
All the best,
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Old December 14th, 2010, 12:20 PM   #11
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Hi Federico,
I have bought the CineBags_CB_25A, like Kevin. Very good bag - no need to worry. For this price, take it. I travelled with this bag and my EX1R + microphones, LitePanel MicroPro, batteries etc. and my 17' MacBook Pro for 4 months all around the world for a big shoot.
Never a problem with any airline - fits exactly into their requirements (maybe too heavy, what I carried around). In rainy conditions I used the provided raincover.
I can highly recommend it - and believe me, I used it in the last months in very tough conditions in almost all climate zones of the planet - rain, dust, heat - no problem. There are some small quality issues (the inside of the top bag - some kind of aluminium stuff - fell apart - but that did not do any harm)
All the best,
Jürgen
thanks
do you think the straps on the back outside are strong enough to hold a big tripod, or would it only work for a small one?
I have a Libec LS-38
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(incidentally can anyone recommend a portable tripod strong enough for the ex1r?)
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Old December 14th, 2010, 02:21 PM   #12
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I don't know the tripod, but from the picture it looks similar to my Manfrotto and that would be too heavy.
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Old December 14th, 2010, 09:06 PM   #13
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The Libec LS-38 is 11lbs and with that 2-stage set of legs, is 33". From my research, that's pretty much as small and light as it goes for a decent tripod system for smooth pans and tilts. Lockdown situations are different.
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Old December 29th, 2010, 06:44 PM   #14
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I found another bag manufacturer of interest to those looking for a minimalist EX1R backpack for hiking. Th Clik Elite line of backpacks feature hydration bladders built-in. I've read of people that use Mountainsmith backpack laptop compartments to hold bladders.

Clik Elite Camera Back Packs | ClikElite
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Old January 5th, 2011, 10:21 AM   #15
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I think It comes down to Kata R-106 or Cinebags 25A

both are approx. the same price, around £200

I wonder which one I should really go for. today I saw an R-103 in a shop: very well assembled but definitely too small for an EX1r
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