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Old March 20th, 2011, 12:48 PM   #16
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Re: Un-browsable 64Gb SxS card

Is it not simply a case of a spanned clip that spans across the 16Gb and 64Gb card? This would explain why you have been able to see the latter part of the clip and not the earlier part. All clips are broken into 4Gb chunks, so if part of the clip is spanned that may not be readable while the later part which would be an individual 4Gb chunk may be readable.

It is always wise IMHO with large projects to copy all of your clips from the cards to a single new BPAV folder on your computer using clip browser. This will re-connect any spanned or segmented clips. Did you try copying your files from both the 16Gb and 64Gb card to a single folder without converting to MXF?
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Old March 20th, 2011, 01:12 PM   #17
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Larry, forgive my ignorance but what's an MBP?

Alister, No it's not a spanned clip - and remember I've exported the clips once before the card became corrupted. However, your advice echoes that of my computer guru who suggested that minimising the use of the Reader might be a good idea anyway. In copying the contents to a single BPAV folder does that duplicate the sub folders also or do their content also get "mixed" within single folders?

Thank you. I wonder if anyone else has encountered any odd difficulties with their SxS Card Reader.
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Old March 20th, 2011, 03:16 PM   #18
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Everything gets put into a single set of sub folders.
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Old March 21st, 2011, 10:31 PM   #19
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Larry, forgive my ignorance but what's an MBP?
MBP = Macbook Pro
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 05:10 PM   #20
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[Finally, for the present I'm importing for Liquid so I export to NLE but as soon as my present little programme is out of the way I plan to install Windows 7 and install Vegas 10. I've bought the Vegas Manual which arrived yesterday so I have had chance to read it but I have read elsewhere that Vegas has a different workflow from the Clip Browser. I'm taking the book on holiday so should be better informed when I return!]

Importing to Vegas 10 is a doddle. Simply go to Device Explorer, point to your SxS or SDHC reader and the file thumbnails appear instantly in the window, they do take a short time to import and add to the project.
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Old March 23rd, 2011, 09:25 AM   #21
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Craig, allow me one more question please. I find the manner in which the Clip Browser works a little odd. Compared to the usual Windows browser (Explorer) it seems sluggish. When a card is inserted the usual windows dialogue box appears and is closed, but it seems to take some seconds for the Clip Browser tree to recognise and display the clips. This isn't card-specific.

I am, of course, still checking back to where I got the advice regarding v2/v2.6 and realise that I may be using a buggy version so I realise these may be muddy waters.

I've read the documentation thoroughly (I always do - I know it's not usual but that's me and my age!) and I can't discover any explanation for opening multiple panes in Clip Browser. Nor do I see a logical reason. Am I missing something?

The computer is a quad core i5 with 8Gb of RAM.

Finally, for the present I'm importing for Liquid so I export to NLE but as soon as my present little programme is out of the way I plan to install Windows 7 and install Vegas 10. I've bought the Vegas Manual which arrived yesterday so I have had chance to read it but I have read elsewhere that Vegas has a different workflow from the Clip Browser. I'm taking the book on holiday so should be better informed when I return!
Hi Philip
I am using a similar setup to you - with my clip browser on a pc vista based machine I use to extract files from my cards which i then transfer to my mac to edit.

Normally - before inserting a card i will set up a new short term receiving folder on my desktop and I tend to name the folder the same as the project video.
I then open up clip browser and here i use three panes.
Pane 1 (top left) is where i browse the sxs card
Pane 2 (lower left) i navigate to show the empty project folder
Pane 3 (the rest of screen) i use to view particuar clips
I then use tools> to set up the copy to function - and when that is set I hit the copy all button.

With three panes open you can see the clips being copied from the card and appearing in the receiving folder..
Personally - I like the three panes...

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Old March 23rd, 2011, 10:05 AM   #22
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In copying the contents to a single BPAV folder does that duplicate the sub folders also or do their content also get "mixed" within single folders?.
Whenever I see the words 'copy to a single BPAV folder' I get nervous. Clip browser can be used to 'combine' BPAV folders to another location to allow combining of clips which span more than one card.
You should never try to use another program (such as Windows Explorer) to copy/combine data from more than one card to a single BPAV. When using a copying program, each BPAV folder must be copied to its own separate parent folder.

One question -- after removing the cards from the camera did you immediately flick the 'write protect' switch on the cards?

Also, is there any chance that the camera was turned off / battery removed / or card ejected before the camera had finished writing its last clip to the card?
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