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Joe Lawry January 9th, 2013 06:54 PM

PMW200 LCD Colour Shift
 
Has anyone else found that their PMW200's LCD shifts towards green/yellow?

I can see a huge difference between my EVF and LCD. My EVF also matches my external HDSDI monitor.

Cheers

Lukas Hribik January 10th, 2013 03:36 AM

Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift
 
Hi, I noticed the same problem. There is a big difference between EVF and LCD colors. I own a EX1R too and managed to color balanced EX1R with 200 through HDSDI output using vectroscope. Both camcoder have a same color on external monitor, EX1R has a quite similar colors on LCD but PMW200's colors are significantly shifted toward green. This is really annoying and confusing when using both camcoders.

I checked a second PMW200 unit but the problem was same. Is this a global problem with PMW200? Is there a option to calibrate LCD in service menu?

Duane Dubiel January 10th, 2013 11:07 AM

Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift
 
I have the same problem. Looks dark green. Always makes you second guess your exposure and white balance.

Joe Lawry January 14th, 2013 12:08 AM

Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift
 
I took my pmw200 to the Engineering bench at Sony NZ to go over it with their head engineers.

It seems the camera does have a green bias on the LCD however it is actually the EVF that is even less accurate on the camera.

They believe the EVF has a Sony 'Vivid' look. (Talking in Sony Bravia marketing)

I then went and spent my first real day shooting on the camera out and about. After using the camera I am now of the opinion that the LCD is too contrasty and needs to be flattened out. The EVF is the same.

Both 'monitors' are definitely different colours though.

Lukas Hribik January 14th, 2013 04:33 AM

Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift
 
Joe, is there same service procedure to calibrate LCD or we are supposed just to live with it?

Zoran Vincic January 14th, 2013 04:43 AM

Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift
 
Not so long ago I shot side by side (the cams were set up identically) with a colleague who recently (summer 2012) changed the EX1 LCD and the difference between my cam and his cam was astounding. His LCD had a terrible green tint compared to mine.

Looks like they're all like that now :(

Gregory Argyropoulos March 27th, 2013 09:40 AM

Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift
 
Is there a way to adjust the colors of the lcd monitor from the service menu and how can I access it?

Larry Kropp March 27th, 2013 08:53 PM

Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift
 
Not real excited about this. So do I buy a new EX1r now and wait awhile until they get more bugs worked out before I buy the -200. I already have one EX1r and I love the camera. No color shift issues at all between the view finder and LCD. Thanks.

Larry

Robert Bale March 28th, 2013 05:46 AM

Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift
 
Hey, I have noticed my EVF is very green , on the pmw 200, I just got a EX1 and the EVF is so much better. Hmm.hope the fix this with a firmware update.

Gregory Argyropoulos March 28th, 2013 07:49 AM

Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift
 
I have both ex1r and pmw 200. Only pmw 200 has the problem. If I can’t solve this soon, I will buy another ex1r, because I can’t carry an external monitor with me all the time. There are three of my colleagues waiting sony to solve the problem, so they can buy pmw 200 too.

Gregory Argyropoulos March 28th, 2013 07:57 AM

Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukas Hribik (Post 1773093)
Joe, is there same service procedure to calibrate LCD or we are supposed just to live with it?

Does anyone know how can I access service menu on pmw 200 and how can i adjust lcd colors?

Larry Kropp March 30th, 2013 08:00 AM

Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift
 
Where can I get a new EX1r? B&H is out of stock. I think we let Sony sit with the -200's until they
get all of their issues fixed. Thanks.

Larry Kropp March 30th, 2013 08:03 AM

Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift
 
Maybe another issue with -200. I've read where you can't fit a wireless receiver on the hot shoe and open the LCD at the same time. Could that be true?? What about adding a onboard shotgun microphone. Any issue with that? Does it have a hot shoe at the back of the camera like the EX1r?

Dave Sperling March 30th, 2013 11:07 AM

Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Kropp (Post 1787550)
Maybe another issue with -200. I've read where you can't fit a wireless receiver on the hot shoe and open the LCD at the same time. Could that be true?? What about adding a onboard shotgun microphone. Any issue with that? Does it have a hot shoe at the back of the camera like the EX1r?

The LCD opens from the top of the camera just behind the hot shoe. On one hand this allows you to fit a matte box on the lens in a way you couldn't with the EX1. The hot shoe is fine for mounting a slim LED light like the LitePanels LP-Micro. The back of the handle has a 1/4" thread in it for another mounting point. I got a 1/4" to HotShoe adapter for times I want to mount a second hotshoe item instead of something using the 1/4" thread (like a monitor - which I wouldn't trust on a hot shoe.)
The mic holder is to the right of where the LCD closes, so there are no clearance issues with mounting a shotgun in it.

Gregory Argyropoulos April 1st, 2013 12:14 PM

Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Kropp (Post 1787550)
Maybe another issue with -200. I've read where you can't fit a wireless receiver on the hot shoe and open the LCD at the same time. Could that be true?? What about adding a onboard shotgun microphone. Any issue with that? Does it have a hot shoe at the back of the camera like the EX1r?

You can't fit a wireless receiver or a comer led light on the hot shoe and open the LCD at the same time.

Steve Browne April 1st, 2013 03:08 PM

Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Kropp (Post 1787549)
Where can I get a new EX1r? B&H is out of stock. I think we let Sony sit with the -200's until they
get all of their issues fixed. Thanks.

I'm thinking about buying a JVC HM-600 instead
and you get a good push auto focus too

Gregory Argyropoulos April 4th, 2013 01:22 AM

Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Browne (Post 1787975)
I'm thinking about buying a JVC HM-600 instead
and you get a good push auto focus too


JVC HM600 hasn’t three 1:2 inch cmos, a fujinon f 1,9 fixed lence, 50mbps 4:2:2, and 4 channel audio. So, you cannot compare it with PMW 200.


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