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Old April 4th, 2011, 08:29 AM   #1
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The quest for a better EVF

Here is my own mockup of a F3 with an improved viewfinder, it sure makes sense. This added to a nice shoulder pad with Sony camera plate mount would be even better.

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Old April 4th, 2011, 09:16 AM   #2
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Which also creates a nice possible accessory I haven't noticed yet (which maybe someone else has) which is a combination shoulder pad that has a standard Sony Plate mount for a Tripod plate, and has the option of adding rods out the front (and perhaps out the back as well?) -- of course with a little bit of slide room for the shoulder pad.
Guess I'll be looking for this at NAB
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Old April 4th, 2011, 09:28 AM   #3
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Here is my own mockup of a F3 with an improved viewfinder, it sure makes sense. This added to a nice shoulder pad with Sony camera plate mount would be even better.

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Very nice.
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Old April 4th, 2011, 10:56 AM   #4
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That would work for me, as well. Perhaps that will be on the F4
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Old April 4th, 2011, 11:01 AM   #5
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Which also creates a nice possible accessory I haven't noticed yet (which maybe someone else has) which is a combination shoulder pad that has a standard Sony Plate mount for a Tripod plate, and has the option of adding rods out the front (and perhaps out the back as well?) -- of course with a little bit of slide room for the shoulder pad.
Guess I'll be looking for this at NAB
Bingo. That is exactly what I am thinking about and yes, rods in the back as well for adding larger battery and outboard recorder support.

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Old April 4th, 2011, 11:06 AM   #6
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Nice mockup Thierry. Wouldn't that be nice. Have you found the missing connector on the body for the EVF?
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Old April 4th, 2011, 03:38 PM   #7
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Well, here's hoping that the F5 comes out... just as the EX1 had the EX3 on it's heels.

(Sony engineers really need to spend sometime on a working set).
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Old April 5th, 2011, 08:26 AM   #8
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Here is my own mockup of a F3 with an improved viewfinder, it sure makes sense. This added to a nice shoulder pad with Sony camera plate mount would be even better.

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Nicely done ... one wonders why the sony designers didn't come up with this!
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Old April 5th, 2011, 09:40 AM   #9
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CVP in the UK was showing this mockup on an AF101 at IBC. I think its based on a design by the German firm Kinomatik that makes the Movietube systems. It has a black box that converts HDMI or SDI to a 20 pin Sony VF socket. More info here: KINOMATIK - technology for motion pictures

I have that VF and would love to see this system produced.
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Thanks for the post John. Just saw on their website that they had a new one for the F3 called the CR, but no mention of North American distributers. Will have to check this out at NAB
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Old April 5th, 2011, 12:41 PM   #11
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Funny thing is, the pic from the IBC show clearly features a Movietube shoulder rig with a Sony HDVF, while the Kinomatik website shows only a rendering of the new CR product with a Cineroid VF. I contacted CVP (a Movietube distributor) and they didn't seem to have a clue.

Not sure where that leaves us, but perhaps NAB will clear things up a bit.
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Old April 6th, 2011, 06:07 PM   #12
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Looks like it is coming sooner that I thought it would. Cineroid's new EVF Pro Metal with various HDMI and HD-SDI I/Os looks very good:

DSLR News Shooter | Cineroid announce EVF Metal range with options for HD-SDI input and output

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The current Cineroid is almost useless thanks to a very poor diopter. CA and uneven focus, it's more like a cheap plastic magnifying glass. Hopefully they've fixed that.
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Any sense Thierry as to when the metal one with HD-SDI connectors will ship?
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The current Cineroid is almost useless thanks to a very poor diopter. CA and uneven focus, it's more like a cheap plastic magnifying glass. Hopefully they've fixed that.
That's why I'd rather have a crisp, professional monochrome VF to use on the F3 over a crappy color one. Having used b/w viewfinders for 30 years, I wouldn't feel all that lost without color.

I haven't seen the Cineroid in person yet, but one definately hears mixed reviews. And what's up with the Zacuto...seems like they've borrowed a page from the RED playbook.
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