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Old July 15th, 2011, 12:36 AM   #1
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RGB/SLog Option arrived.

Yeay! The Slog firmware finally arrived from Sony. As said before, it is an encrypted SxS card. Cant wait to test this weekend ;)

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Old July 15th, 2011, 09:22 AM   #2
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It's all very sneaky! Sony could've simply included this in the F3. They just put the fishing line out and waited. The end user could've bought a RED Scarlet equivalent (ie) a package like the RED Epic for around the same price. Let's add it up. B&H prices.... US$19,890 for the camera & lenses + US$3680 Optional Software + US$2294 SxS x2 32GBcard + US$540 for two BP-U60 batteries + Battery Charger US$180 and then add import duties. That's getting near US$30,000. So when the RED Scarlet is eventually released, there won't be much difference. Very interesting. In the end it is all about money.
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Old July 15th, 2011, 09:37 AM   #3
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The Scarlet isn't S35, they changed that sensor camera to be port of the Epic range and is called the Epic S. Of course, if you want to shoot now you don't have any choice. I'd imagine Sony will have a good year before they need worry, although, if you want a cheaper RED you could buy a used RED One.
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Old July 15th, 2011, 11:04 AM   #4
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Peter the Scarlet doesn't exist so the matter is moot. For that matter ARRI might be producing something to compete with the F3, so may Panasonic. All could be cheaper.

One can play the waiting game forever as anyone who has been around the video industry for a few years can attest. If you don't have to buy a camera now, then wait but if you have to produce now with a 35mm film replacement camera then you have to buy a camera that is in the marketplace.
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Old July 15th, 2011, 02:06 PM   #5
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SBS-32G1A...

Does that mean it comes on a 32GB SxS PRO card? (As opposed to an SxS-1 card)
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Old July 15th, 2011, 03:26 PM   #6
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The SxS-G1A cards are the newer 1200 Mbps version of the SxS-1 cards.
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Old July 15th, 2011, 05:06 PM   #7
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Could someone please explain exactly how this encrypted card works?
Do you have to have it in the camera for the extra features to work or do you "install" them? If so - what stops you from "installing" it on another camera? Is the card being paired with the camera somehow? Also - if you have to have the card mounted to use S-log, that would mean you are limited to one exchangable slot. That would not make sense.

If someone knows the details I'd be very interested to hear more. Thanks!
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Old July 15th, 2011, 06:08 PM   #8
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From what I've gathered...

Once option is installed card does *not* need to stay in slot.

Seems the card itself is just a plain old 32GB SxS-1 card.


Which suggests to me, what the key may be is a special proprietary partition process on the SxS card. I can't back that up, but it seems there's no new dedicated hardware, and the sales reps I've spoken to have indicated that you can use it as an SxS card "after" you install the option, which indicates it may not be possible to write data to the card while the option is on the card.
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