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Old December 2nd, 2011, 03:50 AM   #31
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Re: F3 4:4:4 recording solution? Forget the gemini!

Alister, entered my e-mail in your link as demanded, but no download...
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 05:02 AM   #32
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Same here...it's broke.
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 09:08 AM   #33
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if you click on the link again, after entering you email, you should get the download link.
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 05:29 PM   #34
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Alister,

I've tried your link 5 or 6 times in the past 5 hrs. with no luck.

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Old December 2nd, 2011, 11:20 PM   #35
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Ditto. Just tried it again and nothing happens.
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 04:02 AM   #36
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I've changed the login method. Registered users should get the download link automatically.
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 10:31 AM   #37
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Alister,

OK now. Thank you
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 08:56 PM   #38
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I thought the import tax for Australia was 10%, but I could be wrong.
Import tax to Australia is 10% and then you add on Customs Duty. What a complete rort! I've been stung a number of times with this, which is why you have to be discerning when importing to Australia.

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Value of the Taxable Importation (VoTI) (Cval+Duty+T&I) 1410.00
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Old December 4th, 2011, 04:11 AM   #39
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There is a similar tax situation when importing into most countries.

Across Europe for example a product imported from outside Europe will be subject to VAT. In the UK VAT is 17.5% (As corrected by Mike below it's 20%). Then there is also import duty which will depend on the type of product, but between 8% and 15% is common.

The exporter of a product when selling to another country does not generally have to add any taxes to the product. But when selling in ones own country there will be sales taxes and/or VAT to be added, which is often why overseas goods often appear on the face of it to be cheaper.
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Old December 4th, 2011, 04:38 AM   #40
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In the UK VAT is 17.5%.
20% since 4th January 2011!
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Old December 4th, 2011, 03:35 PM   #41
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Doh! I do know that but my brain refuses to accept 20% VAT, especially on a weekend when I'm jet lagged :-)
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Old December 11th, 2011, 07:46 AM   #42
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Is the difference related to ProRess vs. XDCam or to 10bit 220mbps vs 8bit 35mbps? Or in other words, will capturing with nanoflash at XD Cam HD422 @ 220mbps be comparable with the proress example or with the SxS card example? I don't have a F3 (yet), but have a nano and consider the F3.
Cees, you're welcome to use my F3/Zeiss CP2 for a test
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Old December 17th, 2011, 03:02 PM   #43
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Thanks Ron, I might come back to this at a later stage.

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Is the difference related to ProRess vs. XDCam or to 10bit 220mbps vs 8bit 35mbps? Or in other words, will capturing with nanoflash at XD Cam HD422 @ 220mbps be comparable with the proress example or with the SxS card example? I don't have a F3 (yet), but have a nano and consider the F3.
I have 50GB of test footage available if you want to seriously compare the differences between various codecs. PMW-F3 S-LOG & External Recorders Test Drive
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Old December 18th, 2011, 10:23 AM   #45
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We shot a Duran Duran concert with 12x PMW-F3's with NanoFlashes recording at 80Mb/s on Friday. We chose NanoFlashes as they are highly reliable and the amount of media generated by 12 cameras shooting for over 2 hours each is very manageable. Lot's to consider when choosing a recorder, not just image quality. As there are no plans for a heavy grade (I created a PP specifically for the shoot by experimenting at a previous DD gig) it was felt that 8 bit would be plenty. Shooting with ProRes HQ would have generated around 3.5TB of data compared to the 900GB that was shot with the Nano's. Not a job for a Gemini... that would have been 26TB from the 12 cameras! Don't forget that we are also creating a backup of everything so all the numbers given can be doubled when you include that, plus a further 300GB from the mini-cams and crowd cameras.
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