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Old February 1st, 2012, 05:47 PM   #16
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Re: Big announcement coming for PMWF3???

First they let US citizens pay 25 percent less then Europeans and on top of that they give you SLog. Sony seems not to be aware that over here we join forums too. In the Netherlands the average price point for a PMW-F3L is 14000 euro's (ex VAT). You paid that same amount in... ouch... dollars. Let's hope they make it a free download over here.
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Old February 1st, 2012, 08:49 PM   #17
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I have voiced my dis-pleasure to my rep, not sure what that is going to do.

I certainly don't want money off future sony products, thats for sure.. argh.
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Old February 1st, 2012, 11:30 PM   #18
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Here is a fair deal for Sony to consider. Anyone who has already dished out approximately $3700 for s-log should be offered a 50% discount on either one of the new PL mount lens for the F3.

Sony send instructions to the retailers (eg.) Abel Cine, B&H to make the offer to past recorded purchasers of the CBK-RGB01 and then you have a few months in which to take up the offer.

That is a fair and honest deal, creates good customer relations, encourages people to buy Sony in future........

Nnnnoooo, loyalty counts for very little these days.
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Old February 1st, 2012, 11:49 PM   #19
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Wow I've never been so happy to be a late adopter. I guess I have to figure out a way to get rid of the SxS card afterwards but that's still pretty sweet. From what I've been reading (has sony confirmed any of this?) people who bought early will get 2500 bucks towards the SR-R1 deck or one of the sony Servo lenses.

I literally was getting the urge and wanted to pay off a couple of bills before purchasing this, now I'm thankful that I did. Can't wait to start playing with my mini Alexa.
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 02:16 AM   #20
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I just had a read of the CineAlta News on Twitter. Man, that peeves me big time. So there is a discount for the wide angle zoom lens, but only around 33%.

Clever marketing, but quite deceitful none the less.
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 04:26 AM   #21
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Videocraft kindly refunded my as yet after a month backordered S-Log purchase. Hopefully Sony Australia comes through with this deal soon too. I could fly to LA and back, getting S-Log installed, for half the price I'd pay here now.
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 04:55 AM   #22
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David, how much was the CBK-RGB01 from Videocraft, in Australian dollars? Last year I was quoted a price near $4000, so I chose Creative Media in the UK at around 20% less.

Hope your work with Conspiracy 365 is successful locally.
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 06:13 AM   #23
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$4065AU inc GST. Buying local can be critical sometimes, despite the premium, if issues occur. Local warranty and service cuts down time significantly.

Conspiracy was a bit of a nightmare six months :) No fault of the crew or the F3...
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 03:22 AM   #24
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Re: Big announcement coming for PMWF3???

Directly from a Sony Rep.
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 02:46 PM   #25
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"While supplies last" is an interesting ringer in that announcement. To me this sounds like they are not intending to continue supporting the F3 on some level. Probably implies a new version "F4" with sLog included and perhaps 422 50Mb recording? perhaps 4K? Perhaps decent EVF? It would likely be at a similar price point if dropping the F3. It sure as hell would be nice to know before dropping another $1000.
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 02:51 PM   #26
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Re: Big announcement coming for PMWF3???

I think it implies they are going to start including s-log from the factory. The real question will be if the price of the camera will move up $1k to cover it.

Its not likely the F3 will be updated till its in the market for 24-36 months.
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 03:23 PM   #27
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Lots of rumors about an F4 but that may not mean anything at all.
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 05:12 PM   #28
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Re: Big announcement coming for PMWF3???

When there's a new camera, it's not going to be called an F4. The number 4 is bad luck in Japanese culture and Sony won't use if for a camera model. An F5 or F3R is more likely.
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 05:50 PM   #29
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.....perhaps 422 50Mb recording?
Be nice wouldn't it? And not too difficult to do - and a good answer to the C300.
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perhaps 4K?
Far less likely. It would mean a completely new chip, and that's a big deal, let alone codec, recording etc implications. The F3 chip has dimensions which suit 1080 video well after deBayering - but is of no use for 4k.

At 1080 the differences between the C300 and the F3 aren't that great in quality respects, the difference is that the C300 chip is also suitable for 4k in the future - the F3 chip isn't.
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 06:29 PM   #30
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It's a long stretch to say the C300 sensor is suitable for 4K? Even RED with a higher pixel density can barely resolve a real 3K in their faux 4K. I dare say the F65 is the only S35 sensor around that could hit a real 4K.
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