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Old April 20th, 2012, 01:15 PM   #1
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S-Log w/ 1.31 Firmware PDF

I know I saw a PDF (think I did anyways) that outlined the options for the S-log with the new firmware. I have figured it out, but always like to have the roadmap just in case. Anyone know where I can find that document? The pamphlet that comes with the card is pretty useless. The manual for the F3 with S-Log included does not refer to S-Log. Thanks, George
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Old April 20th, 2012, 02:10 PM   #2
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Old April 21st, 2012, 09:35 AM   #3
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George, are you talking about the new firmware that puts an S-LOG gamma option in the Picture Profile's menus? I've been beta testing it and it works very well. I'm already working on some new PP settings to take advantage of it. When then new firmware is released soon, every F3 will instantly have an S-LOG option built into the camera.
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Old April 21st, 2012, 10:36 AM   #4
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George, are you talking about the new firmware that puts an S-LOG gamma option in the Picture Profile's menus? I've been beta testing it and it works very well. I'm already working on some new PP settings to take advantage of it. When then new firmware is released soon, every F3 will instantly have an S-LOG option built into the camera.
Hi Doug,
Does the update actually increases latitude as the card S-LOG does?
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Old April 21st, 2012, 12:21 PM   #5
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Sure does. S-LOG is S-LOG.
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Old April 21st, 2012, 04:08 PM   #6
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I just wanted to make sure it wasn't just another flat preset. I was ready to order the full S-LOG card for $899 to have it in by the time a customer request it.
Any idea when it will be released?
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Old April 21st, 2012, 07:08 PM   #7
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Could be as early as this week. It has to pass QC at Sony USA before they will let it out. As usual, Canada will probably put it out there first. As far as I can tell the beta version is fine, so now that NAB is over it should be ready to go pretty soon.

Keep in mind that if you don't buy the CBK-RGB01 upgrade, then you won't have built-in LUTS or 444 output. Those things may make a difference to you, or they may not. Everyone's needs are different.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 04:49 AM   #8
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Doug,
How do the LUTs work with the new software?
Is the LUT always based off whatever adjustments you've made to the SLog you're using?

Also what kind of changes can you make to the SLog file. All the typical picture profile adjustments?
Can you make it less radical- i,e something like C-log on the canon

I'd like to be able record one picture profile to the SxS card and another to the 4:2:2 SDI instead of recording a LUT, but I doubt that's feasable.
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I know I saw a PDF (think I did anyways) that outlined the options for the S-log with the new firmware. I have figured it out, but always like to have the roadmap just in case. Anyone know where I can find that document? The pamphlet that comes with the card is pretty useless. The manual for the F3 with S-Log included does not refer to S-Log. Thanks, George
Sorry to still your thread George. I hope that I was able to upload the PDF that were looking for.

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Could be as early as this week. It has to pass QC at Sony USA before they will let it out. As usual, Canada will probably put it out there first. As far as I can tell the beta version is fine, so now that NAB is over it should be ready to go pretty soon.

Keep in mind that if you don't buy the CBK-RGB01 upgrade, then you won't have built-in LUTS or 444 output. Those things may make a difference to you, or they may not. Everyone's needs are different.
I only owned the KiPro Mini so if I need 444 I would just rent the SLOG card and recorder. All I've heard of the LUT is that it's not that good anyway.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 02:06 PM   #10
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No problem Douglas... that isn't the one I saw earlier.. I was looking for one that describes all the output options... maybe I was dreaming that they would actually document a feature set.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 06:05 PM   #11
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How about this one.
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 06:23 PM   #12
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Yes, that's the one. Thanks Douglas!
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 09:43 PM   #13
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Glad I could help.
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Doug,
How do the LUTs work with the new software?
Is the LUT always based off whatever adjustments you've made to the SLog you're using?

Also what kind of changes can you make to the SLog file. All the typical picture profile adjustments?
Can you make it less radical- i,e something like C-log on the canon

I'd like to be able record one picture profile to the SxS card and another to the 4:2:2 SDI instead of recording a LUT, but I doubt that's feasable.
1) With the "free" version of S-LOG that every F3 will have after the next firmware update, there are no LUTs. If you want a LUT to be generated within the camera, then you must purchase the CBK-RGB01 upgrade.

2) Yes, you can still use the other Picture Profile adjustments even when you have selected S-LOG as your gamma choice, but some of those other PP adjustments may not behave the same way you are used to. For example, at first I didn't think I would be able to use this new S-LOG option and still create a PP that would not require grading, but now I think that is possible. As of right now I have a PP that I like better than the one I have been using for the past 15 months. But I'm not done testing yet.

3) Without the CBK-RGB01 upgrade, the same signal will be recorded to the SxS cards and the SDI outputs. There's no way to make them different because there are no LUTs.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 07:23 PM   #15
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I did buy Slog CBK-RGB01 upgrade - of course a few weeks before discovering it would soon be free so I do have LUT's available - Thanks Sony - at least I thought it was a great deal for a few weeks.

Was wondering how those LUTS function when you alter the Slog itself. Do the LUTS alter with it?
Wish I could alter the LUT and record Slog unaltered, that might be more valuable.
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