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Old January 16th, 2016, 12:23 PM   #1
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Stage Event Video - DVD production

I haven't had any luck posting in the "wedding/event video" forum so I thought I'd try here. A couple of my stage event video jobs each year require DVD production at the venue. So, a quick work flow is important but not at the expense of quality. I'm buying all new gear for 2016 and I can't figure out the last piece of the puzzle.

I'm looking for a fairly portable recorder that has the capability of recording standard definition when needed. I'll be coming out of a Panasonic HS50 switcher with SD/SDI.

I found the Ninja 2 for $295 US but I'd need a SDI to HDMI converter. Would this work?

Blackmagic Design Video Assist HDMI/6G-SDI looks even better in that it can record to inexpensive SDHC cards. BlackMagic lists 525/59.94i NTSC as one of the recording formats but a salesman told me he thinks BM listed that spec in error. He contends BM Video Assist will not record in standard definition.

Does anyone know if the BM video assist really can record in a standard definition format?

Does anyone have a better idea for a recorder: SDI in - Standard Def recording capability - not too crazy expensive.
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Old January 17th, 2016, 08:10 PM   #2
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You might have better luck at the bmcuser.com forum.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 11:54 AM   #3
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a standalone dvd recorder taking in a/v composite or component or firewire will burn live during the production and only needs finalizing at the end then can be duplicated on the spot
I have a stack of such recorders in a storage box somewhere
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Old January 18th, 2016, 02:38 PM   #4
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I use Sony DVDirect recorder. It's discounted but you can still buy leftover inventory. SDI to RCA adapter.
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Old January 24th, 2016, 12:33 AM   #5
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Re: Stage Event Video - DVD production

Re the SDI ->HDMI question, I've been taking the component out of a JVC HD110 into a Blackmagic Component->SDI Mini-converter then to a Blackmagic SDI->HDMI Mini-converter and then into a Ninja2.

So an SDI -> HDMI converter will do what you want.

I've been using 2 1/2" HDD's in the Ninja as well as SSD's. I like the new Ninja but for the 2-hour concerts I do CFast is still too pricey.
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Old January 25th, 2016, 06:04 AM   #6
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Re: Stage Event Video - DVD production

I have a BMD Intensity Shuttle. I bought it for all the reasons BMD advertised about converting HD video from camera HDMI to analog and PC via thunderbolt. It is the biggest waste of $200.00 I have spent in years. It is a useless paper weight. It is so far from functional I will never buy another BMD product. Furthermore the software their website advertised as so amazing does not deliver as promised either. In fact, the plug-ins for my Adobe CC caused audio issues elsware in the program and never found the BMD signal. So far from as advertised it is a joke, absolute POS. And I rarely make posts like this, I am not an equipment bashing troll, I have been here for many years.

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Old January 25th, 2016, 04:00 PM   #7
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The last couple of years I've had an extra job stuck on me on the quite big budget shows I run. I get a email that gives me a specific show number to be recorded, and then there is a very short time allowed for production of a DVD that has to be posted for copyright calculations. I have a macbook with DVD drive, and I now record these problem shows direct via firewire to the macbook in premiere. At the end of the show, the file is exported, burned in my old CS5 Encore as a basic DVD without menus. If I record the 2 hour afternoon show, the DVD is done by the end of the second show. It cuts out the ingesting process and seems quite efficient. Probably not what you want though.

The other option is to buy a cheap standalone TV recorder that records direct to DVD - less than 100 and only about ten minutes after pressing stop.
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Old February 11th, 2016, 12:25 PM   #8
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I haven't had any luck posting in the "wedding/event video" forum so I thought I'd try here. A couple of my stage event video jobs each year require DVD production at the venue. So, a quick work flow is important but not at the expense of quality. I'm buying all new gear for 2016 and I can't figure out the last piece of the puzzle.

I'm looking for a fairly portable recorder that has the capability of recording standard definition when needed. I'll be coming out of a Panasonic HS50 switcher with SD/SDI.

I found the Ninja 2 for $295 US but I'd need a SDI to HDMI converter. Would this work?

Blackmagic Design Video Assist HDMI/6G-SDI looks even better in that it can record to inexpensive SDHC cards. BlackMagic lists 525/59.94i NTSC as one of the recording formats but a salesman told me he thinks BM listed that spec in error. He contends BM Video Assist will not record in standard definition.

Does anyone know if the BM video assist really can record in a standard definition format?

Does anyone have a better idea for a recorder: SDI in - Standard Def recording capability - not too crazy expensive.
Maybe the nanoflash will serve you well... if you can find it
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Old February 11th, 2016, 09:53 PM   #9
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Don't mean to derail the post but had to concur with Steven Digges - my BMD intensity shuttle is a total POS.
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Old March 26th, 2016, 02:10 AM   #10
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I personally use a Toshiba DVD recorder for such events. They record while rolling and you finalize the disc at the end (it just takes a few minutes).
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