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Nick Tsamandanis July 23rd, 2008 07:54 AM

Running With Pilot Shot.
 
Just a short sprinting shot, my first attempt at running with the Pilot and Sony Z1: http://www.vimeo.com/1393821
I had a bit of a breeze to contend with, but as you can see the arm has beautifully eliminated all vertical movement. Believe it or not but I find it better running with a 60 pound set up.

Charles Papert July 23rd, 2008 08:06 AM

Nice speed Nick! Interesting that you prefer a heavier rig for this sort of thing--certainly it will make it easier to maintain framing but the mass tends to reduce either the speed or the length of the run for most (alas, one's age and condition is always a major factor in this also)! It's not all that often that I have to do a flat-out run but traditionally I start jettisoning bits and pieces off the rig and now have built a bantamweight running rig for just this purpose.

The systems looks nice and solid, no vibration which is often the case with a high-speed run like this. Good too see the Pilot works well for this type of thing. Thanks for posting.

Nick Tsamandanis July 23rd, 2008 08:31 AM

Yeah Charles, I found running with a big rig or even watching another operator running exhilarating, so smooth! BTW I can go much faster, might post again. Next time I run though I wont have a protein shake beforehand!

Jason Robinson July 24th, 2008 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick Tsamandanis (Post 910919)
Yeah Charles, I found running with a big rig or even watching another operator running exhilarating, so smooth! BTW I can go much faster, might post again. Next time I run though I wont have a protein shake beforehand!

sounds like me before any exercise.... must be on an empty stomach.

Charles Papert July 24th, 2008 12:02 PM

Yeah, it's usually my luck that the biggest Steadicam shot of the day comes right after lunch--it's bad enough when I know about it in advance and have to eat light, even worse when it comes as a complete surprise and I'm packing a full load!

Nick Tsamandanis July 24th, 2008 05:45 PM

Gee Charles, thats one thing that I never thought about, you would just about have to be hungry all day - eat very very light so you don't end up throwing up.

Charles Papert July 24th, 2008 05:59 PM

Add to that the Klassen (back-mounted) vest, which has a wide area that presses against your belly--really helps with this sort of thing!

Afton Grant July 24th, 2008 10:48 PM

Absolutely right, Charles. The Klassen and a full tummy just do not mix. Fortunately, catering is not always the most gourmet of foods, and therefore doesn't encourage me to pig out. I'll typically try to stick to the salad and small portions of pasta. Another thing that helps me is to simply have a granola bar or two throughout the day, especially close to a meal, again discouraging heavy eating. It also maintains a more consistent level of food in the gullet, minimizing that first-mount-after-lunch shock.

Julian Frost July 25th, 2008 06:40 PM

Speaking of running with a Steadicam...
 
...I'm sure you've all seen this commercial...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ll7qjk2jF0A


:-)

Charles Papert July 26th, 2008 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Afton Grant (Post 911716)
Absolutely right, Charles. The Klassen and a full tummy just do not mix. Fortunately, catering is not always the most gourmet of foods, and therefore doesn't encourage me to pig out. I'll typically try to stick to the salad and small portions of pasta. Another thing that helps me is to simply have a granola bar or two throughout the day, especially close to a meal, again discouraging heavy eating. It also maintains a more consistent level of food in the gullet, minimizing that first-mount-after-lunch shock.

Jeez Afton, you are going to make us all look bad.

Then again, I'll check back with you after you start getting full-time episodic work. That tends to lay waste to one's exercise and diet regimen in a big way.

Niall Chadwick July 26th, 2008 02:11 AM

Well I should be getting my steadicam soon and I have had to change how I eat.

Up till now, Ive liked my food too much and kinda piled on the pounds. So at current weight, I would be the steadicam equivalent of the good year blimp!

By the time the device arrives, I will be decidedly thinner. To allow me to do shots like this.

I do remember in the steadicam forum gathering that Charles said (i think) that due to the nature of the steadicam, it is its own exercise machine.

Im waiting for the publication of a 12 step exercise program for the steadicam ala Ted Churchill style :)

Afton Grant July 26th, 2008 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Charles Papert (Post 912140)
Then again, I'll check back with you after you start getting full-time episodic work.

Oh, snap!! You'll be the first person I call, bro.

A very common question about Steadicam is, "What type of exercise do you do?" I don't think there's any better "steadi-exercise" than just putting the damn thing on and either working or practicing. Do lunges, go running, climb stairs, do squats, and all that, but do them because they're just good for you anyway, not because you want to be in shape for Steadicam.

I used to instruct a kickboxing class. It was a very intense, one hour workout. Yet since I would do it six days a week, I was conditioned enough to get through it quite easily. A friend of mine is a triathlete, and one day he and another triathlete friend of his came in to just try out the class. Now, I would consider these guys to be near the absolute top of the fitness chart. They swim several miles, hop on a bike for a couple hundred, and then run to Phoenix... or something like that. Things I could never do then or now. After 10 minutes of my class, they were wiped out. Why? Because it's a different type of exercise. They were working muscles differently than their normal training regimen.

The Olympics are starting soon. If you haven't already, look at the shapes of the athletes' bodies. The swimmers all look different from the sprinters, who all look different from the distance runners, who all look different from the weightlifters, and so forth. These are the top athletes in the world, and I'm sure they all do general exercise for all around fitness, but when it comes time to actually train, they just do it. ....hmmm. That would make a good slogan.

Nick Tsamandanis July 26th, 2008 09:18 AM

Currently leg pressing 700 pounds. Helps get the speed up. Been training hard in the gym for 24 years. Long time fan of the Governor, before he hit Hollywood.

Dave Gish July 26th, 2008 06:46 PM

I don't think jogging or lifting weights would make a huge difference in the stability my shots. The best exercise for me is flying hands free. Balance is more important than strength. Besides, the Pilot isn't that heavy, even with additional weights.

Actually, I take that back. There is one aspect that requires some strength - lugging all the crap around! The camera case, monitor case, and Pilot backpack together makes for a heavy load.

Nick Tsamandanis July 26th, 2008 06:53 PM

Good point there Dave - that's a good reason to bring the wife along. -))))


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