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Peter D. Parker · September 21st, 2009, 10:24 AM

I'd love to do some training with my Glidecam, which I'm upgrading to the X-10.

I've read Paul Mailith's report on training in OZland but it's just a bit too far to go from UK!

Does anyone know of any training available in UK?

Peter

Paul Kellett · September 30th, 2009, 02:20 PM

Hi Peter.

I just found this steadicam course in the UK.
National Film and Television School

If you do it then please post on here how it went, i'm probably getting a pilot next year so want to do some proper training.
Good luck.

Paul.

Peter D. Parker · October 1st, 2009, 07:47 AM

Thanks for the reply Paul.

I'm afraid I can't run to the price they are charging, although I appreciate it is geared towards professional users. I was thinking of a one day familiarisation course for us amaetures. If I find anywhere, I'll let you know.

Peter

Paul Kellett · October 1st, 2009, 08:57 AM

Try this, bottom of the page.

CALUMET

Paul.

Peter D. Parker · October 9th, 2009, 03:08 AM

Thanks for the info Paul.

I'm still waiting for my X-10 upgrade to arrive, so I might give them a call and see if their course is suitable for Glidecam.

Will let you know.

Peter

Niall Chadwick · October 10th, 2009, 02:29 AM

Peter

Check here:

Steadicam Workshops

They do a variety of steadicam workshops from a 1 or 2 day pilot course, to more expanded for bigger devices.

Im going on the November one. Ill let you know how it goes.

Peter D. Parker · October 10th, 2009, 02:30 PM

Thanks Niall,

I'm going to the IOV show on Wednesday so I'll call in at Calumet and have a word regarding my set up, as the courses appear to be for Steadicam products.

I would have thought that the basics are similiar to Glidecam, so might give it a go.

Peter

Niall Chadwick · November 14th, 2009, 01:56 AM

Peter

Have recently just finished the silver course for Steadicam at BBC Wood Norton, as taught by Robin Thwaites.

I found it to be extremely rewarding, very interesting, and extremely tiring (im aching massively at work right now)

I cannot recommend this course enough. Also you get to play with the big rigs, and learn all the basics. Even I was surprised in the difference in the confidence I had operating when you compared Day 1 to Day 3.

Even got some nice video and pictures from the course.

The biggest thing you learn from the entire course....how truly skilled the big boys who do this for a living are. And the nuances and the attention to detail that is required.

Peter D. Parker · November 14th, 2009, 07:00 AM

Glad you had a good time Niall, wish I could do one but it was too expensive (I know, you get what you pay for)

I had a word with Calumet at the IOV show, who were going to do a Steadicam workshop in Manchester but was told that it was specific for Steadicam, not Glidecam. I could have used their equipment but I felt it better to use my own, so I could get used to it.

Peter

Brian Drysdale · November 14th, 2009, 07:23 AM

The skills are the important element and remain the same, the kit is just kit and you can practise the differences easilly yourself. I suspect it'll will be more rigging detail than the operating.

Matt Davis · November 14th, 2009, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Drysdale

I suspect it'll will be more rigging detail than the operating.

Having done Robin's course, it's mindbogglingly complete. Lots of detail on planning shots, sorting out the mechanics of stuff - for example, switching from follow to over shoulder when faced with a 90 degree turn through a limited width door... Dealing with high mode (like over people's heads - giraffe style), up and down steps (don't remind me - egad).

The only little comment I could make about his course is that it is focused on big rigs, but everything applies to a Pilot. Just wish I could have stuck to a Pilot or Flyer as yes - those big rigs are killers if you're a tad out of shape and over 40.

But Robin's course (and others like it) are worth every penny. Every single last cent you sweated blood and tears for. Nothing like it.

Okay. Really embarassing stuff coming up: my take in one exercise on the afternoon of Day 2 -

http://www.mdma.tv/steadicam/matts_take.mp4

Brian Drysdale · November 15th, 2009, 03:56 AM

You do need to be reasonably fit, but quite a few A list operators are over 40.

Niall Chadwick · November 15th, 2009, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Daviss

Having done Robin's course, it's mindbogglingly complete. Lots of detail on planning shots, sorting out the mechanics of stuff - for example, switching from follow to over shoulder when faced with a 90 degree turn through a limited width door... Dealing with high mode (like over people's heads - giraffe style), up and down steps (don't remind me - egad).

The only little comment I could make about his course is that it is focused on big rigs, but everything applies to a Pilot. Just wish I could have stuck to a Pilot or Flyer as yes - those big rigs are killers if you're a tad out of shape and over 40.

But Robin's course (and others like it) are worth every penny. Every single last cent you sweated blood and tears for. Nothing like it.

Okay. Really embarassing stuff coming up: my take in one exercise on the afternoon of Day 2 -

http://www.mdma.tv/steadicam/matts_take.mp4

I agree with pretty much everything you said Matt.

The course was great, and yes Im out of shape but not over 40 yet..working on that part...im still aching like a really achey thing, 2 days later.

We did our stuff inside due to rain. Narrow corridors, doorways...dont worry, My take was similar to yours...mind was buzzing.

Oh and as proof of out of shapedness: i present exhibit A : http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._7902639_n.jpg

I look like a sack tied in the middle ;)

Simon Wyndham · December 3rd, 2009, 05:15 PM

I would recommend the Tiffen Steadicam courses. They are run from a non manufacturer specific viewpoint, although you will be using Steadicam rigs. The instruction is absolutely top notch. Niall is absolutely right, Robin Thwaites instruction is superb.

September 21st, 2009, 10:24 AM	#1
Peter D. Parker Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Preston England Posts: 147	Training in UK I'd love to do some training with my Glidecam, which I'm upgrading to the X-10. I've read Paul Mailith's report on training in OZland but it's just a bit too far to go from UK! Does anyone know of any training available in UK? Peter

September 30th, 2009, 02:20 PM	#2
Paul Kellett Trustee Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bristol UK Posts: 1,273	Steadicam workshop in UK. Hi Peter. I just found this steadicam course in the UK. National Film and Television School If you do it then please post on here how it went, i'm probably getting a pilot next year so want to do some proper training. Good luck. Paul. __________________ Round 2 GH5,FZ2000

October 1st, 2009, 08:57 AM	#4
Paul Kellett Trustee Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bristol UK Posts: 1,273	Try this, bottom of the page. CALUMET Paul. __________________ Round 2 GH5,FZ2000

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October 1st, 2009, 07:47 AM	#3
Peter D. Parker Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Preston England Posts: 147	Thanks for the reply Paul. I'm afraid I can't run to the price they are charging, although I appreciate it is geared towards professional users. I was thinking of a one day familiarisation course for us amaetures. If I find anywhere, I'll let you know. Peter

October 9th, 2009, 03:08 AM	#5
Peter D. Parker Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Preston England Posts: 147	Thanks for the info Paul. I'm still waiting for my X-10 upgrade to arrive, so I might give them a call and see if their course is suitable for Glidecam. Will let you know. Peter

October 10th, 2009, 02:29 AM	#6
Niall Chadwick Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chelmsford, Essex Posts: 83	Peter Check here: Steadicam Workshops They do a variety of steadicam workshops from a 1 or 2 day pilot course, to more expanded for bigger devices. Im going on the November one. Ill let you know how it goes.

October 10th, 2009, 02:30 PM	#7
Peter D. Parker Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Preston England Posts: 147	Thanks Niall, I'm going to the IOV show on Wednesday so I'll call in at Calumet and have a word regarding my set up, as the courses appear to be for Steadicam products. I would have thought that the basics are similiar to Glidecam, so might give it a go. Peter

November 14th, 2009, 01:56 AM	#8
Niall Chadwick Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chelmsford, Essex Posts: 83	Peter Have recently just finished the silver course for Steadicam at BBC Wood Norton, as taught by Robin Thwaites. I found it to be extremely rewarding, very interesting, and extremely tiring (im aching massively at work right now) I cannot recommend this course enough. Also you get to play with the big rigs, and learn all the basics. Even I was surprised in the difference in the confidence I had operating when you compared Day 1 to Day 3. Even got some nice video and pictures from the course. The biggest thing you learn from the entire course....how truly skilled the big boys who do this for a living are. And the nuances and the attention to detail that is required.

November 14th, 2009, 07:00 AM	#9
Peter D. Parker Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Preston England Posts: 147	Glad you had a good time Niall, wish I could do one but it was too expensive (I know, you get what you pay for) I had a word with Calumet at the IOV show, who were going to do a Steadicam workshop in Manchester but was told that it was specific for Steadicam, not Glidecam. I could have used their equipment but I felt it better to use my own, so I could get used to it. Peter

November 14th, 2009, 07:23 AM	#10
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,143	The skills are the important element and remain the same, the kit is just kit and you can practise the differences easilly yourself. I suspect it'll will be more rigging detail than the operating.

November 15th, 2009, 03:56 AM	#12
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,143	You do need to be reasonably fit, but quite a few A list operators are over 40.

December 3rd, 2009, 05:15 PM	#14
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	I would recommend the Tiffen Steadicam courses. They are run from a non manufacturer specific viewpoint, although you will be using Steadicam rigs. The instruction is absolutely top notch. Niall is absolutely right, Robin Thwaites instruction is superb.