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Old January 18th, 2010, 04:41 AM   #1
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Quick question about Pilot weights

I want to buy some more weights for my Pilot.
I've looked at the parts list and there appear to be 3 types of weights, start, middle and end.
It obvious which is the end weight but what about the middle and start weights ?
I've got the original weights which came with my Pilot but now i'm not sure which weights i've got, i've got 4 end weights but what are the other weights ?
Are they start or middle weights ?
I only thought there where 2 types not 3.
Does anyone know the weight difference between start and middle weights ?

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Old January 18th, 2010, 07:55 AM   #2
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Found the answer to my own question after giving Tiffen a call.
Start weights are curved over and have male and female threads.
End weights are curved over but only have male threads.
Middle weights are square at both ends.

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Old January 18th, 2010, 08:52 AM   #3
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Here are pictures and prices for all 3.
steadicam weight 801-7920

Each of middle weight is 4 oz, or 1/4 pound. Each starter weight is 2 oz, or 1/8 pound. The Pilot comes with 4 middle weights and 4 starter weights, for a total of 1.5 pounds.


You'll want to buy more of the larger middle weights. I bought 8 of these. Together with the weights that came with the Pilot, that totals 3.5 pounds.

Hope this helps.
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Old January 18th, 2010, 09:54 AM   #4
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Thanks Dave.

I just looked at the link, the end weight wouldn't work on a Pilot though because the thread is wrong, ie female not male.
So for us Pilot users it's starter and middle weights only.

Thanks again.
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Old February 8th, 2010, 12:50 PM   #5
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How many weights are you guys needing for your EX1 or EX1r roughly?

I will attach a wireless mic, camera led light and battery to it.
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Old February 8th, 2010, 05:45 PM   #6
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How many weights are you guys needing for your EX1 or EX1r roughly?

I will attach a wireless mic, camera led light and battery to it.
It's best to weigh everything. The post office sells this scale for $40. Well worth it.
https://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/sto...WT.ac=10001609

I always run my Pilot with 8 pounds of weight on the top and 2 pounds on the bottom.

Top weight includes the camera, camera battery, camera accessories (wireless and on-camera lighting), quick release plate, cables, and any screw-on weights. Basically everything you add to the top.

Bottom weight includes the screw-on weights plus the Pilot battery.

So for a heavier camera I use fewer weights at the top, and for a lighter camera I use more weights at the top. The bottom weights are always the same.

Here's how it looks with my HVX.
http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/attachme...r-p9030095.jpg

I've flown the EX1 several times, and thats about the same weight as the HVX, so the weights are the same. However, with the EX1, I always had to move the quick release plate back one hole on the stage. This is the only way I could get dynamic balance. This is true for all the Sony cameras I've flown (EX1, EX3, V1U, Z1U). The QR plate hangs off the back a bit, but it's stable. Here's an example with the EX3 so you see what I mean:
http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/attachme...ped-ex3_2s.jpg

For the configuration you list, the big question is how you will power everything. If you have a Pilot-VLB, you can power the EX1 with the Pilot battery. Probably true for the LED light as well.

Hope this helps.
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