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Old January 22nd, 2006, 02:45 PM   #16
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I agree with what Mikko said.

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Old January 24th, 2006, 03:51 AM   #17
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This has been a great thread (thanks so much Quoc)to read as l have noticed the same problems with my skill with the Flyer so it's great to see a visual that you can connect with and then to read the feedback from people like Charles etc. on what to do to quickly resolve the problems in the real world situations (eg. setting up for the shot).

A question for the likes of Charles, Mikko & Tom.

I have a 20 yr background in drumming and the theory was always
"practise slow and precise and the speed will come"
Is it the same with a Steadicam, in that there are pyhsical skills that we have to learn are new to our body so it's repetition, repetition, repetition. Or am l way off track????

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Old January 24th, 2006, 09:05 AM   #18
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Andrew,
Yes steadicam is a steep learning curve at first. It normally takes a few years to become fully "proficiant" with the rig physically. - During which time all the mental parts begin to develop too.
Eventualy the physical aspects become 2nd nature for 'normal' operating (untill someones throws a screwy shot at you to shoot...)

The mental development of operating does not apear to stop.
One rather tall fellow we know, who's been at this for a while, seems to still always be pondering something.

We never stop learning.

With that I'll pass off to Charles who can tell us his perspective after considerably more years operating...

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Old January 24th, 2006, 01:27 PM   #19
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Yes and yes to all.

The immediate tendency for new operators is to rush around with the rig on doing energetic bits of business. In fact, it's a lot easy to get apparently smooth shots the faster one moves with the rig on. However the large majority of Steadicam shots involve slow movements and holds at least part of the time, and as Andrew suggested, slow and precise will lead the way to the other speeds. I observed many times at the workshops that a student who felt they had gotten the hang of simply walking forwards between two points would be reduced to a sweaty, panting mess after being asked to do the same thing at 1/4 speed, much to their surprise.

So yes, slow and steady with plenty of repetition is the way to go, and don't forget to practice those lockoffs--not very sexy but very much a part of daily operating (just came off a series where 1-2 minute lockoffs were a way of life)
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Old February 2nd, 2006, 12:28 AM   #20
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Quoc,

One possible solution to the panning...My rig (Indicam) has to have the tilt bolts not cinched down too tight. I found that if they are overly tightened they put a bind on the gimbal bearing which causes it to pan on it's own a bit. I don't know if you can over tighten the tilt bolts on the Flyer so this might be usless information.

Also, if my rig isn't dynamically balanced correctly I can get some panning action going as well.

I hope this helps.

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Old February 2nd, 2006, 10:27 PM   #21
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Thanks Terry, the bearings on my gimbal were defective, Tiffen changed them and I don't have this problem anymore.

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