Merlin question: Does "size" matter? at DVinfo.net

David Koo · June 21st, 2007, 08:05 PM

Currently, I have a Sony HVR-A1U on my Merlin. This is a much smaller camcorder than a Sony Z1 or a Canon A1... My question is this: does the extra weight of these camcorders help that much to "steady" the shot? I've heard that the extra mass will help to give smoother shots (but more fatigued arms). Right now I'm having trouble getting really smooth pans and walking shots (although I'm practicing)...

Thanks,
dave

David McGiffert · June 21st, 2007, 11:28 PM

Hi Dave,

Just an opinion, but I don't think a heavier camera is much help.
(The XH-A1 is right on the upper limit for a Merlin)
I actually thought a slightly lighter camera would make it easier(!)

Either way, it takes tons of practice and tons of patience.
But the first time you nail a good moving shot it will be worth it.

All the best,

David

Doug Davis · June 21st, 2007, 11:48 PM

Glidecam 4000pro has a weight limit of about 10 lbs per the manufacturer... Just the stock A1 is EXTREMELY CHALLENGING to balance correctly...

Tom Vandas · June 22nd, 2007, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Koo

...does the extra weight of these camcorders help that much to "steady" the shot?

Hi David, I find it is easier to keep a larger, heavier camcorder "steady" on my Merlin; the Sony Z1 and Canon A1 are a good size and weight.

Conversely, if I get out of practice, my forearm starts to shake after 10-15 minutes...

Tony Neal · June 22nd, 2007, 03:09 AM

I agree with Tom that a heavier camcorder makes for smoother Merlin shots, although the extra mass makes turning a little trickier. After 6 months of practice with an FX1 I'm also finding that I can shoot for longer without tiring so much. I recently shot a rehearsal of a musical using the Merlin/FX1 for over two hours, on and off, and I could still use my right arm the next day.
A few weeks ago I bought a tiny Sony HDR-HC7 palmcorder and managed to get it balanced on the Merlin fairly easily, but it was like starting from scratch, and I'm still struggling to get shots with it that are as smooth as with the FX1 - practice I guess.
The main problem I noticed with the smaller camcorder is that it is more easily affected by the wind - the LCD panel is proportionately larger on a palmcorder in relation to the body and seems to act like a sail. I'm hoping the addition of a large capacity battery and a wide angle adaptor will improve the handling.

David Koo · June 22nd, 2007, 04:09 AM

Thanks for the responses....

In my setup, I find that everything seems so light that everything from wind to slight left hand corrections near the gimble transmits some movement... I am definitely not getting anything as smooth as this video from Nick (who flies a FX7, I believe)... INCREDIBLE VIDEO, BTW!

http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=96767

dave

June 21st, 2007, 08:05 PM	#1
David Koo Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 51	Merlin question: Does "size" matter? Currently, I have a Sony HVR-A1U on my Merlin. This is a much smaller camcorder than a Sony Z1 or a Canon A1... My question is this: does the extra weight of these camcorders help that much to "steady" the shot? I've heard that the extra mass will help to give smoother shots (but more fatigued arms). Right now I'm having trouble getting really smooth pans and walking shots (although I'm practicing)... Thanks, dave

June 21st, 2007, 11:28 PM	#2
David McGiffert Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Topanga, CA Posts: 139	Hi Dave, Just an opinion, but I don't think a heavier camera is much help. (The XH-A1 is right on the upper limit for a Merlin) I actually thought a slightly lighter camera would make it easier(!) Either way, it takes tons of practice and tons of patience. But the first time you nail a good moving shot it will be worth it. All the best, David

June 21st, 2007, 11:48 PM	#3
Doug Davis Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Birmingham Alabama Posts: 259	Glidecam 4000pro has a weight limit of about 10 lbs per the manufacturer... Just the stock A1 is EXTREMELY CHALLENGING to balance correctly...

June 22nd, 2007, 03:09 AM	#5
Tony Neal Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fareham, UK Posts: 160	I agree with Tom that a heavier camcorder makes for smoother Merlin shots, although the extra mass makes turning a little trickier. After 6 months of practice with an FX1 I'm also finding that I can shoot for longer without tiring so much. I recently shot a rehearsal of a musical using the Merlin/FX1 for over two hours, on and off, and I could still use my right arm the next day. A few weeks ago I bought a tiny Sony HDR-HC7 palmcorder and managed to get it balanced on the Merlin fairly easily, but it was like starting from scratch, and I'm still struggling to get shots with it that are as smooth as with the FX1 - practice I guess. The main problem I noticed with the smaller camcorder is that it is more easily affected by the wind - the LCD panel is proportionately larger on a palmcorder in relation to the body and seems to act like a sail. I'm hoping the addition of a large capacity battery and a wide angle adaptor will improve the handling.

June 22nd, 2007, 04:09 AM	#6
David Koo Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 51	Thanks for the responses.... In my setup, I find that everything seems so light that everything from wind to slight left hand corrections near the gimble transmits some movement... I am definitely not getting anything as smooth as this video from Nick (who flies a FX7, I believe)... INCREDIBLE VIDEO, BTW! http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=96767 dave