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Old December 20th, 2017, 11:52 PM   #31
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Livestream Studio is PC only. So it doesn't do any good for Mac owners.
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Old December 20th, 2017, 11:54 PM   #32
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However what we really do like about Livestream (apart from no limits in storage or views) is the fact that each event has it's own event page and you can create it with details and images even a year before the event and send people the link .. AFAIK no other CDN has the event page feature so for us it presents very well to the client!!
Agreed. That is a huge feature..
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Old December 21st, 2017, 01:25 AM   #33
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Sorry Ryan

I had no idea that their software would not run on a MAC .. that's a little shortsighted from the software developers ... What is a little amusing is their new product the MEVO camera was only available to run on iPhones or iPads and much later after much crying they offered an Android app but the majority of users use Apple products still. Makes you wonder why Livestream Studio was never made for a MAC???
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Old December 21st, 2017, 06:48 PM   #34
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Mac users only get the Producer software. Which means I can at least feed in cuts off our ATEM... it's basically the same as the app they provide to iPad. I agree, very short-sighted, especially since they don't allow me to use Wirecast.
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Old December 21st, 2017, 10:21 PM   #35
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I see OBS do a Mac version of their switching software and it's free! The interface isn't quite as innovative as LS Studio but it does work well and amazingly has the best chroma keyer I have ever used! It can actually stream anywhere but still needs the producer app on the computer to be able to stream to Livestream! Have you ever used it Ryan??
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I see OBS do a Mac version of their switching software and it's free! The interface isn't quite as innovative as LS Studio but it does work well and amazingly has the best chroma keyer I have ever used! It can actually stream anywhere but still needs the producer app on the computer to be able to stream to Livestream! Have you ever used it Ryan??
Never used it. I've had a Wirecast license since 2009. Currently using Wirecast Pro 8. To use it with Livestream.com you need their Enterprise package (about $8000 per year). They don't allow any 3rd party encoders on smaller subscriptions.

I just signed up for DaCast for streams where Vimeo Live won't fit. (If I need a perpetual stream address or a channel playout.) So far it's looking good -- but I've only done limited testing and haven't yet done a real event with it. Very similar to a platform called Scale Engine I used to use (they're great, and cheap, but are better for developers since they have only a very basic web interface.)
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Old December 22nd, 2017, 11:56 AM   #37
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Wirecast (including Wirecast on Mac) now supports Livestream directly.
Livestream stopped being restrictive. Granted one may have to be an Enterprise customer.

And Wirecast supports Vimeo too of course.
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Old December 22nd, 2017, 03:58 PM   #38
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“Stopped being restrictive”
“Requires ($8000/yr) Enterprise Plan”

I thought I covered that exception pretty thoroughly in the previous posts. It’s the plan restriction that makes Livestream.com a hard choice to make for Mac users (unless they have a LOT of clients to justify the expense.)

I just signed up for DaCast for $2k a year with full Wirecast support and many of the same features as the Enterprise version of Livestream. Even if I blow the DaCast data cap — that $6k price difference buys a fair amount of data. Between that and Vimeo Live I’ll probably be set for 2018.
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Old December 22nd, 2017, 06:02 PM   #39
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You would have to have a massive viewing audience (and paying one) to justify $8000 a year Ryan! As far as business overheads go we like to keep them as low as we can especially as our audiences can vary from anything for 15000 right down to a tiny 10 -15 views when it comes to weddings and funerals. For us $8000 simply wouldn't be viable.

Sounds like you have the right plan with DaCast .. but sadly they seem to charge on viewers and again don't have the very convenient "event pages"
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