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Old January 24th, 2006, 11:52 PM   #421
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So, sorry if I genuinely offended you (and you're not just making me squirm again). I'm used to filthy people.
Who are you calling filthy?
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Old January 24th, 2006, 11:54 PM   #422
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Most of the people I've worked around. Especially when we get familiar with each other.

I remember a specific PA gig where we were outside a car dealership, and the DP leans over as a woman walks by and says "nice ass". that kinda stuff. It only gets worse from there.

It's just amazing what flies across an intercom on a multicam shoot.
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Old January 25th, 2006, 12:35 AM   #423
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I need to say that I don't necessarily command these rates, they are what I am offered when I work in key positions on network shows. I do set these same rates for my personal clients and I guess I've been lucky to get them so far because they are always happy with the end product.

Myself and others that I work with usually don't work half days because there's really no way to sell the other half. Now, in a busier market like LA, that may be different because there is so much work. Like a said earlier, it rarely if ever is as short as they say it will be for whatever reason(s) and you need to be covered if it goes over. If you agree to a lower rate for two hours and it goes over, guess what, you're working for free! This knowledge comes with experience and by getting screwed.

hello james,

it's not about the mula, (it is) it's about principles.

the first 1 1/2 years i was working for free, on the side. got expirience blah..blah..blah. since last year fall, i charge, have repeat customers, and an inventory with no way back anymore (anybody wants to listen to my better half?) so, i am setting some basics. have to, or give up.
when you say there is no half day, i guess you're right. there is no half day, since there is nothing realy what could be done the rest of the day, and who knows how long it may take.

my biggest downside is, i still don't edit.

greetings
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Old January 25th, 2006, 02:49 AM   #424
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I got into this purely by mistake, about 6 years ago. I was in school, getting a Graphics degree because I like to create. Part of the course was Premiere, which they glossed over like everything else they taught ( I had to help the teacher get her Frames excercise to work in the Web portion!). Anyways, when I got married in 2001, a friend shot the event and handed me the tape. I sat down and edited it, added music... and was hooked.

Not long after that, I started hanging out with the SurfGuru.com crowd. They were taping surf and skate events, interviewing people, and putting the stuff on the web. I started editing their stuff, and would get a whopping $10 a tape. Being the really loose group they were, few of them knew what they were doing, but had fun doing it anyways. I learned how to shoot, so I could teach them, making editing easier for me.

A lot has happened between then and now. I still like doing what I do... I just don't do enough of it to make a living. But, I do everything that comes along, and hope to be able to do well someday. $200 a day, is a very good day right now.
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Old January 25th, 2006, 07:05 AM   #425
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Keith, e-mail me man! I got an idea for you to drum up some funds. I just started doing it locally and it seems to be catching on.

I am forming a company just to handle these requests.

It's about 2 days of work, and should pay more than 200/day.
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Old January 25th, 2006, 11:19 AM   #426
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You should have mail, man :)
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Old January 25th, 2006, 02:31 PM   #427
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Here's a good one

This one has to be a joke.....right?




Reply to: gigs-128386063@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-25, 1:28PM EST


I'm in the middle of filming a great Sundance bound film, the crew work is being done by Interns macin' on cold pizza. The dailys have looked like crap the the sound sucks and we've had numirous accidents, and so now they are bitching about insurance. Can you help me?

I need a seasoned film maker to come in and train these people, they aren't stupid, they just don't know what they are doing. I'll cut you in for a back end part of the profit when the film gets picked up next year at Sundance.

* no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
* Compensation: That warm fuzzy feeling you get when you help out a fellow film maker.




Wow...you made your movie with all unpaid interns, and so far it's *gasp* SUCKED? And you're planning on getting into Sundance....how?
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Old January 25th, 2006, 02:37 PM   #428
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That's just. . .pathetic.


When he says "Sundance-bound" does he mean the rejection bin?

And what's "macin'"?
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Old January 25th, 2006, 03:44 PM   #429
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I believe he meant to type "macking", which is some sort of slang for "chowing down". In other words, he's been paying them with cold pizza. SUNDANCE, HERE WE COME!
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Old January 25th, 2006, 04:23 PM   #430
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I got into this purely by mistake, about 6 years ago. I was in school, getting a Graphics degree because I like to create. Part of the course was Premiere, which they glossed over like everything else they taught ( I had to help the teacher get her Frames excercise to work in the Web portion!). Anyways, when I got married in 2001, a friend shot the event and handed me the tape. I sat down and edited it, added music... and was hooked.

Not long after that, I started hanging out with the SurfGuru.com crowd. They were taping surf and skate events, interviewing people, and putting the stuff on the web. I started editing their stuff, and would get a whopping $10 a tape. Being the really loose group they were, few of them knew what they were doing, but had fun doing it anyways. I learned how to shoot, so I could teach them, making editing easier for me.

A lot has happened between then and now. I still like doing what I do... I just don't do enough of it to make a living. But, I do everything that comes along, and hope to be able to do well someday. $200 a day, is a very good day right now.
Oh boy, the surfguru crowd. Are you a First Peaker? (OT) Sending mail shortly.
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Old January 25th, 2006, 05:09 PM   #431
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Oh boy, the surfguru crowd. Are you a First Peaker? (OT) Sending mail shortly.
Nope... one of the few Floridians that doesn't surf. Chances are, if you were a regular to the site in 2001-2002, you watched one of the videos I edited. I probably did 30 of them for SG, and "taught" them how to shoot ;)
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Old January 25th, 2006, 11:01 PM   #432
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Dolly, Jib, Camera, Cameraperson, $50 a day! Now raise your hands, How many of you bought all the above gear and have so little experience that you'll work on a music video for $50 a day.

And BTW he already has the shoot date and doesn't even have the above gear or camera person.

At that price, mr. producer, you might find someone to get the coffee but you better be paying for the coffee.

CAMERAPERSONS SOUGHT FOR MUSIC VIDEO - SOME PAY

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Date: 2006-01-25, 9:11PM EST


We're shooting a music video in a few days and want several angles from each take. Thus, seeking camerapersons for said music video.

Shoot is this weekend. Pay is $50 per day.

Email details about your camera package. Prefer a Tripod Dolly in package if possible or jib, etc.
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Old January 26th, 2006, 12:48 AM   #433
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Great site

I'm sure someone else posted this already....but here's a great site someone here might get a kick out of.


http://www.fu*kthatjob.com/ (not sure if i'd get booted for dropping an F-Bomb...so...yeah, fill in that blank)
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Old January 26th, 2006, 09:36 AM   #434
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Low Pay Low Budget DV Films

I thought this was an appropriate article for this forum. I think links should be posted to craigslist around the country (world). It busts the fantasy of "we'll make a hit and make money then." Working for low/no money will yield low/no money over the long term. Own the distribution and maybe . . .

http://www.wired.com/news/technology...rss.technology
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Old January 26th, 2006, 01:48 PM   #435
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Or maybe those guys all own distribution systems, and you just don't know it. :-)
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