film look attempt opinion please ? at DVinfo.net

Anthony Tham · September 27th, 2007, 05:12 AM

hello just did 2 shots and edited it. trying to get it to look and feel like film. anyway do drop your opinions. thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfV8Aob-51g

Matt Wall · September 27th, 2007, 05:37 AM

I think it looks good buddy.

Anthony Tham · September 27th, 2007, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Wall

I think it looks good buddy.

thanks lots. don't know why the 16:9 went off in youtube . any solutions ? thanks

Mick Foley · September 27th, 2007, 06:33 PM

The clip looks very good! What exactly did you do to get it that way?

Anthony Tham · September 27th, 2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mick Foley

The clip looks very good! What exactly did you do to get it that way?

Thanks Micky Foley!

What i did was i set my shutter speed to 1/60th and thats all the rest was at auto exposure. In post i down converted the video from 29.970fps interlaced to 24p and made some colour adjustment for the mood i wanted.

Marcus Marchesseault · September 28th, 2007, 01:15 AM

It doesn't look like film, but it also doesn't look like home video. To me, it looks like HD with proper exposure and that's not bad at all.

Anthony Tham · September 28th, 2007, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Marchesseault

It doesn't look like film, but it also doesn't look like home video. To me, it looks like HD with proper exposure and that's not bad at all.

Hey glad to hear that from you. Talking about HD might want to get a hv20 haha im sure it'll kick my present cam off anytime hahaha

Anthony Tham · September 28th, 2007, 09:35 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KNtVNpNLoo

Just shot another one today. it was a little underexposed though

Daniel Ross · September 28th, 2007, 05:26 PM

Why aren't you using manual exposure? If you want the film look, that's important.

I agree... not film, but not DV. Mostly. There are some strong grays in it which I don't like. The skin tones seem off. They should be more saturated. In this, almost completely gray. The first shot of the second clip seems way too washed out, though the rest are ok, aside from the skin tones.

Youtube isn't helping anything either, though convenient. Post some full rez stills as well.

Marcus Marchesseault · September 28th, 2007, 06:23 PM

I think proper exposure, good color correction, and limiting a camera's video sharpening go a long way toward the "film look". You might want to look into filters that will help with the contrast range. I'm using an Ultra Contrast 3 filter and it brings up the shadows a bit so I can bring down the exposure of the highlights a bit so they don't blow out so much.

Kenny Shem · September 28th, 2007, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Marchesseault

I think proper exposure, good color correction, and limiting a camera's video sharpening go a long way toward the "film look". You might want to look into filters that will help with the contrast range. I'm using an Ultra Contrast 3 filter and it brings up the shadows a bit so I can bring down the exposure of the highlights a bit so they don't blow out so much.

Proper exposure is important. However for color and video sharpening, these can be adjusted in NLE right? Is it really necessary to do that in the camera?

Daniel Ross · September 29th, 2007, 12:25 AM

Color can't be regenerated. It can be altered, sure, but there needs to be enough data to work from, at least.
Best in camera.

Sharpening cannot be done digitally very well.
Some cameras oversharpen, which leaves halos around objects or black lines, and this can't really be undone with a computer. You can work on it, but there's no way to unsharpen it. Blurring just makes it softer overall, not just right in the trouble spots.
Blurring also doesn't immitate soft focus, due to distance concerns.
You can fake both sharper and softer, though I don't recommend that over the camera. It's what the buttons are for.

September 27th, 2007, 05:12 AM	#1
Anthony Tham Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Malaysia Posts: 71	film look attempt opinion please ? hello just did 2 shots and edited it. trying to get it to look and feel like film. anyway do drop your opinions. thanks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfV8Aob-51g Last edited by Anthony Tham; September 27th, 2007 at 08:20 AM.

September 28th, 2007, 09:35 AM	#8
Anthony Tham Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Malaysia Posts: 71	Test 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KNtVNpNLoo Just shot another one today. it was a little underexposed though

September 27th, 2007, 05:37 AM	#2
Matt Wall Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK Posts: 29	I think it looks good buddy.

September 27th, 2007, 06:33 PM	#4
Mick Foley New Boot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 17	The clip looks very good! What exactly did you do to get it that way?

September 28th, 2007, 01:15 AM	#6
Marcus Marchesseault Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,961	It doesn't look like film, but it also doesn't look like home video. To me, it looks like HD with proper exposure and that's not bad at all.

September 28th, 2007, 05:26 PM	#9
Daniel Ross Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Marin & Davis, CA, USA Posts: 418	Why aren't you using manual exposure? If you want the film look, that's important. I agree... not film, but not DV. Mostly. There are some strong grays in it which I don't like. The skin tones seem off. They should be more saturated. In this, almost completely gray. The first shot of the second clip seems way too washed out, though the rest are ok, aside from the skin tones. Youtube isn't helping anything either, though convenient. Post some full rez stills as well.

September 28th, 2007, 06:23 PM	#10
Marcus Marchesseault Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,961	I think proper exposure, good color correction, and limiting a camera's video sharpening go a long way toward the "film look". You might want to look into filters that will help with the contrast range. I'm using an Ultra Contrast 3 filter and it brings up the shadows a bit so I can bring down the exposure of the highlights a bit so they don't blow out so much.

September 29th, 2007, 12:25 AM	#12
Daniel Ross Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Marin & Davis, CA, USA Posts: 418	Color can't be regenerated. It can be altered, sure, but there needs to be enough data to work from, at least. Best in camera. Sharpening cannot be done digitally very well. Some cameras oversharpen, which leaves halos around objects or black lines, and this can't really be undone with a computer. You can work on it, but there's no way to unsharpen it. Blurring just makes it softer overall, not just right in the trouble spots. Blurring also doesn't immitate soft focus, due to distance concerns. You can fake both sharper and softer, though I don't recommend that over the camera. It's what the buttons are for.