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Nathan Quattrini December 1st, 2007 10:59 PM

How to approach slow motion with what I have
 
Ok, I am almost ready to start capturing and editing a short I filmed back in August. I will be editing on a Mac with the Adobe CS3 suite to start. I filmed all the regular motion stuff in 24 fps 1/48 shutter speed and everything I wanted in slow motion at 60 i with i think 1/120 shutter speed. I need to know how I should go about capturing it, and making the 60i (once slowed) work into a 24 fps short film. Can anyone give me a step by step?

Emre Safak December 2nd, 2007 09:47 AM

To start with, you did the right thing by shooting with a high shutter speed. Now you need to use AE's Time Remapping tool to retime the clip. From threr, it is a small step to simply re-insert the motion blur for a seamless shot. Set your comp frame rate to 24fps.

Nathan Quattrini December 2nd, 2007 11:25 AM

ok so first can i capture them both in the same project? Or do i need a 60i project and a 24 fps project? By 'retime the clip' you mean slow it down right?
How do i 'reinsert the motion blur'? Is it after I do all that that I make the AE comp 24 fps?

Emre Safak December 2nd, 2007 11:46 AM

I do not edit with Premiere (I wrote with AE in mind) but you should probably be able to do the same thing there as well. Retime means retime; slowing down or speeding up. Try simply dropping your 60i footage on a 24P timeline and see what happens; it should be smart enough to take care of it.

Check the documentation for the Time Warp filter: http://livedocs.adobe.com/en_US/Prem...B54B06C75.html

I found a tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exzQPNP1IQY

Nathan Quattrini December 2nd, 2007 06:27 PM

time remapping is easy enough, i more concerned with the methods of mixing 60i with 24 fps....i`ve seen many scattered posts in the past about it but didn`t save them since i didn`t have the means to try it out. So i`m looking for someone to step me through the whole process.

Emre Safak December 3rd, 2007 07:02 AM

You should be able to IVTC and time remap simultaneously. Did you try?

Nathan Quattrini December 3rd, 2007 10:43 AM

IVTC? Don`t know what that is. This is why I`m looking for a clear and concise step by step on the process. I haven`t installed the software since I don`t own it quite yet, I`m just trying to educate myself before it arrives so I am prepared. I will have the Adobe CS3 production premium for now.

Emre Safak December 3rd, 2007 12:49 PM

Yes, you do: it's 60i->24P. (Inverse Telecine)

Emre Safak December 3rd, 2007 12:52 PM

If you are unfamiliar with Adobe video software, I suggest the "Classroom in a book" series.

Nathan Quattrini December 3rd, 2007 01:05 PM

I have been editing for a long time, but doesn`t mean I know every term out there. Last i knew there was an extensive process of capturing, running video through convereters to get the slow mo, then converting it back a certain way as to not lose info, etc etc. Perhaps its much simpler now than it was 5 months ago?

Bill Hamell December 3rd, 2007 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan Quattrini (Post 786533)
I have been editing for a long time, but doesn`t mean I know every term out there. Last i knew there was an extensive process of capturing, running video through convereters to get the slow mo, then converting it back a certain way as to not lose info, etc etc. Perhaps its much simpler now than it was 5 months ago?

About ten months ago I put a clip on the time line (in PP2) changed the duration to 4 times the clips actual duration instant slow-motion...

If you import your 60i into a 24p time line it will play, it will just look slower which is what you want. If you want it even slower, change the duration of the clip.

Bill

Nathan Quattrini December 4th, 2007 08:33 AM

ok, so the next question is, does it look good? Its for a short film for the film festivals, so I want it to look good , no jittering etc.

Emre Safak December 4th, 2007 09:47 AM

Optical-flow tools like Time Warp are definitely good enough.

Nathan Quattrini December 11th, 2007 01:46 PM

and once again, do i need to capture the 60i from within a 60i project? Or do I capture it in the same 24 fps project as the normal footage?


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