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Old November 28th, 2008, 07:11 AM   #16
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Am i right or wrong in saying the canon hv20 has more resolution than standard 16mm film,i was under the impression than for hd tv broadcasts 35mm pro hd and a small pecentage of hdv, not sure about super16 but i do not think 16mm is included.
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Old November 28th, 2008, 10:08 AM   #17
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Am i right or wrong in saying the canon hv20 has more resolution than standard 16mm film,i was under the impression than for hd tv broadcasts 35mm pro hd and a small pecentage of hdv, not sure about super16 but i do not think 16mm is included.
For the UK broadcasters Super !6 is counted as a SD format (like HDV), although this seems to be due to the transmission codec not liking the grain on the 500 ASA stock or perhaps it's just the engineering politics.
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Old November 28th, 2008, 12:41 PM   #18
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Am i right or wrong in saying the canon hv20 has more resolution than standard 16mm film,i was under the impression than for hd tv broadcasts 35mm pro hd and a small pecentage of hdv, not sure about super16 but i do not think 16mm is included.
I doubt that the HV20 has more resolution than 16/Super16 - this was simply a real-world shoot under time-constraints and lo-no budget (there was one more person on crew other than us, the two operators). I'm sure someone could prove with a better film stock that film has more resolution that the HV20. But, then how much more, and, could the average person tell?

The HV20's image, despite being uncompressed, had a resolution lower than it's maximum; a 35mm adapter and 35mm lens loose contrast and resolution and adds chromatic aberration, the DOF was extremely shallow (50mm 1.4 lens fully wide open) and my focus was off as I was eyeballing it through a 2.5" LCD screen. Then bear in mind the optical and digital systems in the camera that throw away high-frequency detail. If the set had been any darker at all, it would have started to miss detail.

In the end, the director and I were excited that we can cut the footage together after a colour grade and some grain thrown in.
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Old November 28th, 2008, 03:26 PM   #19
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I just wanted to know what stock THAT frame was from, looks like 7218 and it seems to be exposed to the specular highlights. For people who haven't seen much 16mm, this shouldn't be seen as a comparison to make any judgments on.

Anyways, thanks for posting Chris, I love frame grabs!
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Old November 19th, 2009, 11:43 AM   #20
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Old November 20th, 2009, 10:28 AM   #21
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Old November 20th, 2009, 12:15 PM   #22
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Glad you enjoyed it - the director will be thrilled! It was his first project of this nature. Cheers!
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Old November 24th, 2009, 09:27 AM   #23
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Which parts were 16mm.
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Old November 24th, 2009, 12:31 PM   #24
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Martyn, this project is over a year old now for me, and, it's visually hard to tell, which means that the blend of the two was a success. From what I can remember, the first shots are 16mm, many of the earlier shots from the first half of the band on the location they play at are 16mm, and all the B-Roll (B&W driving, etc shots) are 16mm too.
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