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Old November 4th, 2004, 10:14 PM   #16
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Oh yea. I'm working on 24p project right now. As long as you use the same "cine" settings it'll be the same.

Think of this like film. Usually film is shot at 24fps. When you slowmo it you change the frame rate, say 150fps. It's not the same think but it looks right because everything else (lighting, colors, blacks, highlights) look the same.

Same with video. You're changing the motion of the video by "creating" more frames in post. So it's not 24p because you're adding more frames. But if everything else is the same (those things mentioned above) it'll fit.
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Old November 5th, 2004, 04:53 PM   #17
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but watch out to NOT use fast moving objects!!! it works if you have for instance a person with yellow shirt and blue jeans and a colourfull background. If the movie has like 1000000 ants walking bye, then it is time to save 100000 dollars to rent a special camera who can do what you heart wants you to do.

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Old November 5th, 2004, 04:56 PM   #18
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By the way, The dynapel software is really unstable and gives me error most of the time. Good idea but you need to be a expert to use that program the good way. A little bit more programming spend on it and I would love it. BUt now..grrr... error after error.
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Old November 5th, 2004, 08:51 PM   #19
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Have you seen how this can blend with 24p? Is it something that can be meshed together?
Examples are on the new DVD. It blends very nicely, but the 60i slowmo stuff is noticeably softer in resolution. Everything else is the same though. The motion is very smooth.
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Old November 8th, 2004, 09:38 PM   #20
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For DV, you can also use Twixter plugin for After Effects which will do the same thing as Dynapel.
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Old November 23rd, 2004, 07:57 AM   #21
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I admit I didn't read the entire thread but, here goes...

If you have a camera that will do 60p, you could effectivly slow down 60p footage to be 24p and that would give you about 60% reduction in speed (time) in that footage.

This may be the slo-mo from the XL2 the other poster was mentioning. You would naturally apply a "speed" or "%" effect in the timeline like in Premiere or Avid. To hit 24p exactly (math is not my strong suit) I think you would need to set the speed at .4 or 40% ?

I think that's correct.

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Old November 23rd, 2004, 08:07 AM   #22
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There is no con-/pro-sumer camera that has 60p. All those camera's
have 60i (interlaced!). And in my opinion this would be better to
use indeed to go to 30p slowmotion (perhaps even 24p with the
right tools).
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Old December 1st, 2004, 12:33 PM   #23
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Rob is correct. I have our demo XL2 on my desk and it is sadly only 60i, not 60p. Sort of a shame really. Would have been a nice feature.

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Old December 19th, 2004, 01:14 AM   #24
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Doh.. How about that AJ-HDC27F Panasonic camera for $65 grand? It does deliver 60p. Oh, and it's even HD. :D
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Old December 19th, 2004, 09:34 AM   #25
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<<<-- Originally posted by Rob Lohman : There is no con-/pro-sumer camera that has 60p. All those camera's
have 60i (interlaced!). And in my opinion this would be better to
use indeed to go to 30p slowmotion (perhaps even 24p with the
right tools). -->>>

How about the JVC HD-1/HD-10? It has a SD 60p mode. Those frames could be transcoded from MPEG-2 to DV using Vegas or the other freeware tools out there, giving you a TRUE 60fps (50%) slo-mo. If you combined this with a software tool like twixtor, I'd bet you could even get a decent 25% slo-mo without loosing too much quality. Has anybody tried this? I would have thought the JVC cam would be very popular for sports footage because of this very feature.
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Old December 21st, 2004, 07:26 AM   #26
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It would certainly be quite interesting if it does this indeed, however
I haven't heard of anyone here yet who has done that. Would be
neat to hear from someone who tried it!
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Old December 21st, 2004, 01:18 PM   #27
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There's also this After FX plug-in called RealViz Retimer. Uses the morphing technology but honestly - what Premiere Pro generates when decreasing the speed of a clip looks better than that of Retimer :). Maybe I've been using the plug-in demo wrong, let me try ..
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Old December 21st, 2004, 07:06 PM   #28
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Anyone remember those slo mo scenes in the Six Million Dollar Man?
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Old December 21st, 2004, 08:17 PM   #29
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If that footage with Britney and a snake (I wish it'd bite her) is considered super slow mo, then what do you call the slow-mo in the beginning of Lock, Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels. That's like super mega giga slow mo, or something :). I wonder what framerate Guy Ritchie's camera was shooting at
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Old December 21st, 2004, 09:26 PM   #30
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Has anybody had a good experience with this dynapel software?

Its only $26.00 so it sounds very tempting plus the two test shots looked very nice.

Is this going to give me a better looking slowmo than just premiere pro 1.5?
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