How to do black and red duocolor without pixelation? at DVinfo.net

Rasmus Larsen · February 8th, 2007, 07:04 AM

Hi

Im trying to do black and red color duocolor.
I´ve made an attempt an im satisfied with the results, but when i render and export the movie it becomes pixellated.

Here the effects i have used:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...lorcorrect.png

Here´s how it looks with these effects used, before rendering:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...nopixelati.png

And here´s the problem: This it how it looks with the abomentioned effects used after rendering:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...oticethepi.png

Is there a way to make the image look like the first one. Two colors, red and black, but with no pixelation when it is rendered?

PS:

I´m quite sure its the colors which are responsible for the pixelation because when i remove the colors there is only litle pixelation. Heres and example of the same image with the colors removed, before rendering.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...renderingn.png

And here the same picture after rendering - notice that it only has a smal amount of pixelation:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...enderingon.png

Cole McDonald · February 8th, 2007, 01:07 PM

Have you tried an actual export to see if this is just the rendered display file resolution being a bit lower for speed sake while editing? There may be a setting in the display/rendering preferences for image quality. The unrendered pics would be the full quality footage, whereas the post rendered pics would be from the render files created by FCP.

Rasmus Larsen · February 8th, 2007, 01:47 PM

Hi
Yes the pixellation is there when i export it also, unfortunately. No matter how high compressionrate i export in, the pixellation is still there, even when i export in .dv-format. So i don´t know what to do?

Joe Winchester · February 8th, 2007, 10:46 PM

Can you look at it on an external monitor/tv hooked up through your camera?

Cole McDonald · February 8th, 2007, 11:10 PM

Check the final cut menu > User Preferences > Render Control to see what resolution the render is set to. Should be 100%

Rasmus Larsen · February 9th, 2007, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cole McDonald

Check the final cut menu > User Preferences > Render Control to see what resolution the render is set to. Should be 100%

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Winchester

Can you look at it on an external monitor/tv hooked up through your camera?

Hi thanks for the answers.

But my render resolution is set to 100%. And i don´t have an external monitor. But when i export it the pixellation is still there.

Any other ideas?

PS/ If anyone is interested here it is on myspace. Even though myspace reduce the quality of the movies, this one is more pixellated than the other ones i have uploaded to myspace, which are in the same compression rate. http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...oID=1910718179

Cole McDonald · February 9th, 2007, 11:54 AM

perhaps using a higher resolution pipeline? edit using an HD sequence, then export as NTSC when you're done? I'm out of good suggestions.

Jack Walker · February 9th, 2007, 10:41 PM

Hello, off topic, but what camera did you use and how did you process the colors on your martin viser nogle... video?

Thanks!

Impressive little clips!

Rasmus Larsen · February 9th, 2007, 10:44 PM

Do you suggest that i should set the resolution of the sequence to twice what it is now, and then render it, and export it as usual?

/ps i´m on PAL-format.

Rasmus Larsen · February 9th, 2007, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Walker

Hello, off topic, but what camera did you use and how did you process the colors on your martin viser nogle... video?

Thanks!

Impressive little clips!

Hi
i´m using a canon mv800. quite a cheap camera, i think its 250 dollars now.
On the "martin viser nogle bøger..." i used the fcp three way color corrector. Up the contrast. The "high" color is all yellow and the saturation is almost all down - and thats it.

Rasmus Larsen · February 10th, 2007, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cole McDonald

perhaps using a higher resolution pipeline? edit using an HD sequence, then export as NTSC when you're done? I'm out of good suggestions.

Hi
I´ve tried that now but unfortunately the strange pixellation is still there as you can see here:
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...ress/Bild6.png

Any other ideas?

February 8th, 2007, 07:04 AM	#1
Rasmus Larsen New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Esbjerg Posts: 9	How to do black and red duocolor without pixelation? Hi Im trying to do black and red color duocolor. I´ve made an attempt an im satisfied with the results, but when i render and export the movie it becomes pixellated. Here the effects i have used: http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...lorcorrect.png Here´s how it looks with these effects used, before rendering: http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...nopixelati.png And here´s the problem: This it how it looks with the abomentioned effects used after rendering: http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...oticethepi.png Is there a way to make the image look like the first one. Two colors, red and black, but with no pixelation when it is rendered? PS: I´m quite sure its the colors which are responsible for the pixelation because when i remove the colors there is only litle pixelation. Heres and example of the same image with the colors removed, before rendering. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...renderingn.png And here the same picture after rendering - notice that it only has a smal amount of pixelation: http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...enderingon.png

February 8th, 2007, 01:07 PM	#2
Cole McDonald Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sauk Rapids, MN, USA Posts: 1,675	Have you tried an actual export to see if this is just the rendered display file resolution being a bit lower for speed sake while editing? There may be a setting in the display/rendering preferences for image quality. The unrendered pics would be the full quality footage, whereas the post rendered pics would be from the render files created by FCP. __________________ Web Youtube Facebook

February 8th, 2007, 11:10 PM	#5
Cole McDonald Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sauk Rapids, MN, USA Posts: 1,675	Check the final cut menu > User Preferences > Render Control to see what resolution the render is set to. Should be 100% __________________ Web Youtube Facebook

February 9th, 2007, 11:54 AM	#7
Cole McDonald Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sauk Rapids, MN, USA Posts: 1,675	perhaps using a higher resolution pipeline? edit using an HD sequence, then export as NTSC when you're done? I'm out of good suggestions. __________________ Web Youtube Facebook

February 8th, 2007, 01:47 PM	#3
Rasmus Larsen New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Esbjerg Posts: 9	Hi Yes the pixellation is there when i export it also, unfortunately. No matter how high compressionrate i export in, the pixellation is still there, even when i export in .dv-format. So i don´t know what to do?

February 8th, 2007, 10:46 PM	#4
Joe Winchester Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 125	Can you look at it on an external monitor/tv hooked up through your camera?

February 9th, 2007, 10:41 PM	#8
Jack Walker Trustee Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Burbank Posts: 1,811	Hello, off topic, but what camera did you use and how did you process the colors on your martin viser nogle... video? Thanks! Impressive little clips!

February 9th, 2007, 10:44 PM	#9
Rasmus Larsen New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Esbjerg Posts: 9	Do you suggest that i should set the resolution of the sequence to twice what it is now, and then render it, and export it as usual? /ps i´m on PAL-format.