One color pop - the rest desaturated

Chris Leong · May 14th, 2007, 06:43 PM

Anybody using a quick method to keep, say, a model's lips red and the rest of the frame desat/b&w without overlays?

Or is the overlay still the fastest way to go?

Thanks!

Cole McDonald · May 14th, 2007, 06:50 PM

in FCP (not sure what you're using), you would select a "limit effect" on a color correction pushing the saturation all the way down.

Chris Leong · May 14th, 2007, 06:55 PM

Thanks Cole
I have both FCP and Avid. The Avid MC I'm using now at work doesn't have that setting, but maybe XPress HD does too?
So you just dial up the chroma value you wish to protect and then desat the rest of the image, right?
Cheers
Chris

Cole McDonald · May 15th, 2007, 06:36 AM

You would make sure to exxaggerate the lips slightly using makeup to make it "pop" from the flesh tones. Then desaturate the entire image, select the limit effect section at the bottom of the Color Corrector, pick your reds and invert the limit:

http://www.izzyvideo.com/2006/11/04/...aller-version/

Chris Leong · May 15th, 2007, 02:22 PM

Success!
Thanks, Cole!
Cheers
Chris

Cole McDonald · May 15th, 2007, 04:55 PM

post before and after clips :)

Chris Leong · May 15th, 2007, 05:42 PM

Cole, I've never tried that before. What's the best size/compression rate etc for posting to this board? (FCP 5.1.4 with everything on it, also QT Pro on dual G5 system, so I could make almost anything, I'd guess. HDV origination)
I guess the clip would be around 15 secs, give or take.
Thanks!
Cheers
Chris

Cole McDonald · May 15th, 2007, 06:04 PM

I would say anything single digit in Mb would be fine (10Mb or less). for pix, I like to just use 640x480ish jpgs. Vid, you'll have to host yourself seomwhere. Megaupload seems to be popular (I don't like it personally, but I've got my own serverspace-extra clicks bad)...there's a few others too.

Boyd Ostroff · May 15th, 2007, 06:08 PM

FWIW, you can do this sort of effect in-camera with the Sony Z1 (and maybe the V1 and A1 as well?) using the "color correction" menu.

Chris Leong · May 17th, 2007, 11:34 AM

Overcast day, around an hour after sunset..
35mm DOF Box but with the GG spin turned off (not turned on yet).
Also, sorry about the compression on the jpeg. Have a real nice looking (5MB) file if anybody would like to see it...

Cheers
Chris

Cole McDonald · May 18th, 2007, 06:50 AM

very cool looking. Nicely done.

Chris Leong · May 18th, 2007, 01:36 PM

Thanks to Cole and the gang!

The shot itself is a 15 second long diagonal wipe. Pretty darned effective and, as they say in Latin, QED.

(Quite Easily Done)!

Thanks again!
Cheers
Chris

Joshua Fernandez · May 30th, 2007, 06:46 PM

Anyone know how to do this in Sony Vega Platinum? Or Adobe Premiere Elements?

Ken Diewert · June 5th, 2007, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua Fernandez

Anyone know how to do this in Sony Vega Platinum? Or Adobe Premiere Elements?

Joshua,

Check the Vegas forum. I know I've read it over there.

I've tried it, and it works. Cole's right about emphasizing the color to be isolated first.

As I recall, it was using the the secondary color corrector and desaturating all except for????

Here's a recent thread with a sample of the effect.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...=Pleasantville

Ken Diewert · June 5th, 2007, 05:25 PM

Joshua,

Go to http://www.jetdv.com and search 'color pass' or 'pleasantville effect'. There is a quick process outlined in the Vol. 1 #11 Newsletter.

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Cole McDonald Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sauk Rapids, MN, USA Posts: 1,675	You would make sure to exxaggerate the lips slightly using makeup to make it "pop" from the flesh tones. Then desaturate the entire image, select the limit effect section at the bottom of the Color Corrector, pick your reds and invert the limit: http://www.izzyvideo.com/2006/11/04/...aller-version/ __________________ Web Youtube Facebook

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Cole McDonald Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sauk Rapids, MN, USA Posts: 1,675	I would say anything single digit in Mb would be fine (10Mb or less). for pix, I like to just use 640x480ish jpgs. Vid, you'll have to host yourself seomwhere. Megaupload seems to be popular (I don't like it personally, but I've got my own serverspace-extra clicks bad)...there's a few others too. __________________ Web Youtube Facebook

May 17th, 2007, 11:34 AM	#10
Chris Leong Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles CA USA Posts: 507	Overcast day, around an hour after sunset.. 35mm DOF Box but with the GG spin turned off (not turned on yet). Also, sorry about the compression on the jpeg. Have a real nice looking (5MB) file if anybody would like to see it... Cheers Chris Attached Thumbnails

May 14th, 2007, 06:43 PM	#1
Chris Leong Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles CA USA Posts: 507	One color pop - the rest desaturated - fastest method? Anybody using a quick method to keep, say, a model's lips red and the rest of the frame desat/b&w without overlays? Or is the overlay still the fastest way to go? Thanks!

May 14th, 2007, 06:55 PM	#3
Chris Leong Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles CA USA Posts: 507	Thanks Cole I have both FCP and Avid. The Avid MC I'm using now at work doesn't have that setting, but maybe XPress HD does too? So you just dial up the chroma value you wish to protect and then desat the rest of the image, right? Cheers Chris

May 15th, 2007, 02:22 PM	#5
Chris Leong Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles CA USA Posts: 507	Success! Thanks, Cole! Cheers Chris

May 15th, 2007, 05:42 PM	#7
Chris Leong Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles CA USA Posts: 507	Cole, I've never tried that before. What's the best size/compression rate etc for posting to this board? (FCP 5.1.4 with everything on it, also QT Pro on dual G5 system, so I could make almost anything, I'd guess. HDV origination) I guess the clip would be around 15 secs, give or take. Thanks! Cheers Chris

May 15th, 2007, 06:08 PM	#9
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	FWIW, you can do this sort of effect in-camera with the Sony Z1 (and maybe the V1 and A1 as well?) using the "color correction" menu.

May 18th, 2007, 06:50 AM	#11
Cole McDonald Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sauk Rapids, MN, USA Posts: 1,675	very cool looking. Nicely done. __________________ Web Youtube Facebook

May 18th, 2007, 01:36 PM	#12
Chris Leong Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles CA USA Posts: 507	Thanks to Cole and the gang! The shot itself is a 15 second long diagonal wipe. Pretty darned effective and, as they say in Latin, QED. (Quite Easily Done)! Thanks again! Cheers Chris

May 30th, 2007, 06:46 PM	#13
Joshua Fernandez Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 39	Anyone know how to do this in Sony Vega Platinum? Or Adobe Premiere Elements?

June 5th, 2007, 05:25 PM	#15
Ken Diewert Trustee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada Posts: 1,200	Joshua, Go to http://www.jetdv.com and search 'color pass' or 'pleasantville effect'. There is a quick process outlined in the Vol. 1 #11 Newsletter. __________________ C100, 5DMk2, FCPX