Why da homies be dissin' my cam?

Adrian Douglas · May 29th, 2003, 08:05 AM

Josh,

I would go for 7.62 mm and the 5.56 round can be diverted from it's trajectory by a blade of grass and as the people dissin the XL obviously have extremely narrow minds and probably don't know DV from VD you are going to need the extra stopping power.

Keith Loh · May 29th, 2003, 11:44 AM

The solution is to shoot something great and compare the work, not the cameras. The proof is in the product, not the tools.

Josh Bass · May 29th, 2003, 01:12 PM

It's annoying when people seem to think that if they have some new camera they'll be able to do all this great stuff that they couldn't do in 30p, simply because the camera has 24p.

Nigel Moore · May 29th, 2003, 01:42 PM

Shooting in PAL, I'm not so sure that 24fps is really that different. I could stand to be corrected.

Josh Bass · May 29th, 2003, 02:12 PM

Ah, yes my friend, but I'm using NTSC.

Nigel Moore · May 29th, 2003, 02:26 PM

I figured that. But I'm shooting in PAL.

And my dad's bigger than your dad.

(That last bit's probably a lie, since my dad's shrunk a lot since I was a nipper)

Dylan Couper · May 29th, 2003, 02:27 PM

Possible responses to people dissing your camera:

"Oh, this thing (holding up XL1)? I dunno, my woman got it for me for my birthday so I could video tape family meetings and stuff, but I always end up with footage of my feet." (star laughing and walk away).

"Yeah, it's basically just an add on to my mini35 system. You have one of those too right? (look of shock) What, you mean you actually use the lens that CAME with your camera?" (start laughing and walk away).

Get the EOS adapter and a nice big Canon 400mm lens. Say "mine's bigger than your's is".

(next comment not directed at or in defense of any camera group in particular, since the XL1 could be just as guilty)...
If all else fails say "Only poseurs and amateurs think that buying the latest gadget laden camera will make their productions better."

And finally, grab their camera and smash it on the floor. Say "ITS NOT SO GOOD NOW, BI-ACH!"

Josh Bass · May 29th, 2003, 02:49 PM

All good ideas. I wish I had the mini35. I mean, I wouldn't, you know, pay money for it, or anything, but if someone left it and a Zeiss prime lens outside my house, I wouldn't hold it against 'em.

And of course when buying the cam, I didn't compare it to anything else. I read a lot about it, but no comparison to a PD150 or anything.

Michael Middleton · May 29th, 2003, 03:11 PM

Definitely the Houston traffic. Stick with the Bell Tower, just avoid the Transco (or whatever it's called now), I work too close to that one!

Michael

Josh Bass · May 29th, 2003, 03:35 PM

Are you here in H-Town (as the kids say)? Wanna throw any work my way?

Rob Lohman · May 30th, 2003, 08:03 AM

You know you can always incorporate some of this anger in one
of your movies. How else do you think all these action/thriller/
horror and other "destroy" movies get made?

Michael Middleton · May 30th, 2003, 09:08 AM

Yep, I'm in H-Town, but unless you're a network integrator I can't throw any work your way. I'm a hobbiest, at best, in the video world! ;-)

Michael

Josh Bass · May 30th, 2003, 10:48 AM

Damn, thanks anyway Michael.

Yes, I thought of some movie where people go to war over their XL1ses and PD150s, but then I thought, "wait there's only 12 people in the entire world who would find this even remotely funny or even know what the hell I'm talking about." So, one more idea for the toilet.

Nigel Moore · May 30th, 2003, 01:31 PM

'Tis a shame. It had promise. I particularly liked the idea of the unleashing allmighty 3 CCD hellfire scene.

Ah well....

Rob Lohman · June 2nd, 2003, 09:53 AM

That was a funny "scene" indeed

May 29th, 2003, 08:05 AM	#16
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	Josh, I would go for 7.62 mm and the 5.56 round can be diverted from it's trajectory by a blade of grass and as the people dissin the XL obviously have extremely narrow minds and probably don't know DV from VD you are going to need the extra stopping power. __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

May 29th, 2003, 11:44 AM	#17
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	The solution is to shoot something great and compare the work, not the cameras. The proof is in the product, not the tools. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

May 29th, 2003, 01:12 PM	#18
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	It's annoying when people seem to think that if they have some new camera they'll be able to do all this great stuff that they couldn't do in 30p, simply because the camera has 24p. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

May 29th, 2003, 02:12 PM	#20
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Ah, yes my friend, but I'm using NTSC. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

May 29th, 2003, 02:27 PM	#22
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Possible responses to people dissing your camera: "Oh, this thing (holding up XL1)? I dunno, my woman got it for me for my birthday so I could video tape family meetings and stuff, but I always end up with footage of my feet." (star laughing and walk away). "Yeah, it's basically just an add on to my mini35 system. You have one of those too right? (look of shock) What, you mean you actually use the lens that CAME with your camera?" (start laughing and walk away). Get the EOS adapter and a nice big Canon 400mm lens. Say "mine's bigger than your's is". (next comment not directed at or in defense of any camera group in particular, since the XL1 could be just as guilty)... If all else fails say "Only poseurs and amateurs think that buying the latest gadget laden camera will make their productions better." And finally, grab their camera and smash it on the floor. Say "ITS NOT SO GOOD NOW, BI-ACH!" __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

May 29th, 2003, 01:42 PM	#19
Nigel Moore Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Switzerland Posts: 358	Shooting in PAL, I'm not so sure that 24fps is really that different. I could stand to be corrected.

May 29th, 2003, 02:26 PM	#21
Nigel Moore Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Switzerland Posts: 358	I figured that. But I'm shooting in PAL. And my dad's bigger than your dad. (That last bit's probably a lie, since my dad's shrunk a lot since I was a nipper)

May 29th, 2003, 02:49 PM	#23
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	All good ideas. I wish I had the mini35. I mean, I wouldn't, you know, pay money for it, or anything, but if someone left it and a Zeiss prime lens outside my house, I wouldn't hold it against 'em. And of course when buying the cam, I didn't compare it to anything else. I read a lot about it, but no comparison to a PD150 or anything. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

May 29th, 2003, 03:11 PM	#24
Michael Middleton Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Paris, TX Posts: 71	Definitely the Houston traffic. Stick with the Bell Tower, just avoid the Transco (or whatever it's called now), I work too close to that one! Michael

May 29th, 2003, 03:35 PM	#25
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Are you here in H-Town (as the kids say)? Wanna throw any work my way? __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

May 30th, 2003, 08:03 AM	#26
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	You know you can always incorporate some of this anger in one of your movies. How else do you think all these action/thriller/ horror and other "destroy" movies get made? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 30th, 2003, 09:08 AM	#27
Michael Middleton Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Paris, TX Posts: 71	Yep, I'm in H-Town, but unless you're a network integrator I can't throw any work your way. I'm a hobbiest, at best, in the video world! ;-) Michael

May 30th, 2003, 10:48 AM	#28
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Damn, thanks anyway Michael. Yes, I thought of some movie where people go to war over their XL1ses and PD150s, but then I thought, "wait there's only 12 people in the entire world who would find this even remotely funny or even know what the hell I'm talking about." So, one more idea for the toilet. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

May 30th, 2003, 01:31 PM	#29
Nigel Moore Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Switzerland Posts: 358	'Tis a shame. It had promise. I particularly liked the idea of the unleashing allmighty 3 CCD hellfire scene. Ah well....

June 2nd, 2003, 09:53 AM	#30
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	That was a funny "scene" indeed __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors