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Old June 12th, 2003, 03:34 PM   #1
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Website suggestions and comments.

http://www.freewebs.com/harshmanner/index.htm

Just got done doing the basic layout of that website.

It looks like crap at 800x600 (which amazingly, some people still use).

How does that look on your computer?

What resolution are you at?

Can you see the slight harsh manner logo in the background? (not the one on the main entrance page) The reason I ask this is because some peoples monitors are wayy to dark, and I am wondering if I need to "brighten" (make it less transparent) it up.

There seems to be a bug with the rollover image on the main page too. If you have your mouse over it before the page fully loads, and then move it off the image, you get a red x...eh.


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Old June 12th, 2003, 04:00 PM   #2
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Alex - have no idea what resolution this monitor is at, but I saw the watermark logo on the second page.

Looks ok to me, but what do I know?!
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Old June 12th, 2003, 04:12 PM   #3
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The images are muddy. I think you could stand to reduce the dimensions in favour of resolution.
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Old June 12th, 2003, 05:56 PM   #4
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Looks okay here. A little bit of anti-aliasing on the words might
be nice... Background image is just fine.
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Old June 12th, 2003, 06:25 PM   #5
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Out of curiousity, have your clients requested their equipment listed on their web site? This seems unusual and a bit unprofessional. Unless the band prides itself on its distinctive instruments (a la Blue Man Group), the selling point of a band never will be what gear it uses. For a small band without a security entourage, this will probably be nothing more than an invitation to theft.
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Old June 12th, 2003, 07:10 PM   #6
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I was just going from what was on their "website" from like 2 years ago. I will probably change it, no big deal.
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Old June 12th, 2003, 07:49 PM   #7
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Re: Website suggestions and comments.

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Originally posted by Alex Knappenberger : http://www.freewebs.com/harshmanner/index.htm

Just got done doing the basic layout of that website.

It looks like crap at 800x600 (which amazingly, some people still use).

How does that look on your computer?

What resolution are you at?

Can you see the slight harsh manner logo in the background? (not the one on the main entrance page) The reason I ask this is because some peoples monitors are wayy to dark, and I am wondering if I need to "brighten" (make it less transparent) it up.

There seems to be a bug with the rollover image on the main page too. If you have your mouse over it before the page fully loads, and then move it off the image, you get a red x...eh.


Thanks.
Just checked it out. Looks like the beginnings of good site. You might consider a smaller entry image logo. The way most roll over's work, is once you roll over, the returning image is looking for what's cached. It error's out because the image hasn't completely downloaded yet and it has nothing stored on the local computer to draw the image from. I would probably look at the code, or see if there's different code out there that might work better.

Here's an example script you might try:
Code:
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/JavaScript">
<!--
function MM_swapImgRestore() { //v3.0
  var i,x,a=document.MM_sr; for(i=0;a&&i<a.length&&(x=a[i])&&x.oSrc;i++) x.src=x.oSrc;
}

function MM_preloadImages() { //v3.0
  var d=document; if(d.images){ if(!d.MM_p) d.MM_p=new Array();
    var i,j=d.MM_p.length,a=MM_preloadImages.arguments; for(i=0; i<a.length; i++)
    if (a[i].indexOf("#")!=0){ d.MM_p[j]=new Image; d.MM_p[j++].src=a[i];}}
}

function MM_findObj(n, d) { //v4.01
  var p,i,x;  if(!d) d=document; if((p=n.indexOf("?"))>0&&parent.frames.length) {
    d=parent.frames[n.substring(p+1)].document; n=n.substring(0,p);}
  if(!(x=d[n])&&d.all) x=d.all[n]; for (i=0;!x&&i<d.forms.length;i++) x=d.forms[i][n];
  for(i=0;!x&&d.layers&&i<d.layers.length;i++) x=MM_findObj(n,d.layers[i].document);
  if(!x && d.getElementById) x=d.getElementById(n); return x;
}

function MM_swapImage() { //v3.0
  var i,j=0,x,a=MM_swapImage.arguments; document.MM_sr=new Array; for(i=0;i<(a.length-2);i+=3)
   if ((x=MM_findObj(a[i]))!=null){document.MM_sr[j++]=x; if(!x.oSrc) x.oSrc=x.src; x.src=a[i+2];}
}
//-->
</script>
and in the body tag of your document:
Code:
<body onLoad="MM_preloadImages('mainwebsite_html/images/source/button-down.png')">
and finally, in the body of your document:
Code:
<a href="www.yourname.com" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage
'button_name','','mainwebsite_html/images/source/button-
down.png',1)"><img src="mainwebsite_html/images/source/button-up.png"
 alt="Button" name="button_name" width="130" height="39"
 border="0"></a>
keeping in mind that the filenames and paths would have to be relative to your directory structure.

Will the links on the navigational bars be roll-over's also or static image maps? Even if the letters would change color, it would be a nice effect.

My only advise would be to keep the page design simple and user friendly which is what it appears you have so far.

I could see the watermark just fine. I run at 1024x768, but it looks like your accomidating the 800x600 users quite well. It's always hard designing a site with a black background, but in the long run, I think it makes for a sleaker look. :-)

Again, lookin' good. Can't wait to see the finished product.

~Cheers~

Click Here for an example of a page I did for our band...
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Old June 12th, 2003, 10:41 PM   #8
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Alex,

It look like a good start. You might want to rethink the "might look like dog shit" line as this might be cool to 16 yo fans but to potential record companies etc it's a little bit unprofessional, it aslo doesn't reflect well on you as the designer.
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Old June 13th, 2003, 06:24 PM   #9
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Heh, thanks guys. I took some of your suggestions and changed it. It's now more compatible with 800x600, even though I think it still looks like crap at that resolution. There's still a lot to do so don't think it's done yet. Once I get some good video of these guys (or hopefully make them a music video) i'll make a flash intro.

http://www.freewebs.com/harshmanner/index.htm
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Old June 13th, 2003, 07:11 PM   #10
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Alright! I like the image roll overs on the text links!
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Old June 13th, 2003, 07:55 PM   #11
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Is the select-text crippling for aesthetic or security purposes? I like to select text as I'm reading web content (helps me keep my place), and if anybody really wants your content they'll just view source.

Also, if you expect to have frequent news updates and the server allows, you might want to set this up as a PHP application hooked into a MySQL database, rather than just hard coding each entry in HTML by hand.

Also, I notice that while you uses styles in some places, in others you resort to using the <font> tag. Break the <font> habit and just use styles. While you're at it, stick all the styles in a style sheet and just refer to classes and (where called for) ids in your HTML document.

Overall, I'd say it looks great.

Chris: Your site looks great and your band has a great sound as well. You aren't kidding around when you hype your "heafty 1000 W thump."
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Old June 13th, 2003, 09:01 PM   #12
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Chris, Robert, thanks. I removed the non-select text thing, I forgot about it -- it was carried over from the entrance page.

I updated it with a new logo at the top, I think it looks a lot better. Now I just need to do a few little things and then get some content on there.

http://www.freewebs.com/harshmanner/main.htm
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Old June 15th, 2003, 04:37 AM   #13
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Chris: Your site looks great and your band has a great sound as well. You aren't kidding around when you hype your "heafty 1000 W thump."
Thanks Robert K S. :-) The bands been a lot of fun, and a great outlet for stress relief from work. It's good medicine.

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Old June 15th, 2003, 12:16 PM   #14
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I would suggest removing the ENTER page. It could annoy people who want to get right down to the band and their info.

I would keep it, IF, the band and site is not intended for undage viewers. In that case, add a disclaimer and a link away.
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Old June 16th, 2003, 11:45 AM   #15
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<<<-- Originally posted by Aaron Rosen : I would suggest removing the ENTER page. It could annoy people who want to get right down to the band and their info.

I would keep it, IF, the band and site is not intended for undage viewers. In that case, add a disclaimer and a link away. -->>>

"Splash pages" are old school, and are not needed.
I want to go right to a webpage, and not make another click on enter.

Those people who insist on using splash pages, I just bookmark the main page and bypass the splash page anyway.............
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